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Considering putting a decent chunk of money into oil to make a quick buck. Is it morally wrong to try making money off of this? Is it stupid to risk money on this?
Not really, just don’t bankrupt yourself and be smart about it
I’m genuinely beginning to fear that the US and Israel choose the nuclear option to maintain their empire. I can’t think of anything rgat would stop them besides fear of Russian retaliation sparked from fear.
I really fukcing wish Iran developed a nuclear weapon like the DPRK, because I’m sick to my stomach worried about this.
If they use nukes, the world is literally over lol. China and Russia would, rightly so, preemptively nuke the US afterwards and so on.
I’m not sure they would risk the end of the world for Iran…
I’m just paranoid about the nuclear option and how unhinged the empire is going to be in this dying war.
Also i don’t think they’d have Trump going “its the most succesful military operation ever” etc… They wouldve started preparing the public for the nuclear option since the beggining imo.
Trump recently said that the Iranian people are evil. To me that sounds like a departure from the regime change line that was being used up until now.
That’s just what he does. Both hegseth and trump been parroting how succesful and excellent everythings been going so it would be insane trying to justify using a nuke at this point. If anything i think they’re about to fold with this messaging. Make the public believe they won and they’re the best to ever do it so they’re pulling back, while in reality they’re running away with the tail between their legs.
What is the difference between dropping tens of thousands of conventional warheads vs dropping a few nukes?
The atom bomb is a paper tiger which the U.S. reactionaries use to scare people. It looks terrible, but in fact it isn’t. Of course, the atom bomb is a weapon of mass slaughter, but the outcome of a war is decided by the people, not by one or two new types of weapon. -Mao
A nuke or even ten cannot win the war. The missile launchers and depots are all over Iran and most of them are made to withstand penetration bombs and nukes don’t do penetration. All nukes would do is convince the world to destroy america before america destroys the world.
Mao made that quote in 1946 when nukes were much, much less powerful and numerous then the ones that exist today. What Mao said was true for back then and it’s possible using nukes might ultimately backfire on the US but I think it’s still important to keep sober with reality, nukes are serious business and every country that cares about sovereignty should be seeking them, immediately. If Cuba and Russia were smart Russia would be stationing nuclear missiles in Cuba RIGHT NOW before the fascists yet again take advantage of their opposition hesitating and vacillating against their aggression and fearing/seeking salvation from an international community that does not exist rather then taking concrete action.
Russia stationing nukes in Cuba would absolutely cause a Cuban missile crisis Pt.2
Yes, it would, but the alternative is the US invading and taking over Cuba with minimal consequences. The US government and military establishment have spelled it out in a crystal clear fashion they are on global crusade to purge socialism militarily and they should be taken at their word as much as Hitler should of when he wrote his thoughts about the bolsheviks in Mein Kampf. And it pains me to say it but Nuclear weapons are truly the only viable defense in Cuba’s case. Cuba doesn’t have the robust ballistic missile and drones manufacturing that Iran has and a committed attack by the US would be extremely one sided. We can talk about the Bay of Pigs and Vietnam but the factors aren’t identical. The Bay of Pigs was a suicide incursion done by rabid Gusanos that the US merely supported rather then an actual US military campaign, Vietnam had a steady stream of supplies and support from China and the USSR to keep them fighting into perpetuality. The best leverage Cuba has would be to strike shipping and oil assets in the Gulf but again they lack the missiles and drones to do that like Iran can.
Sanctions cause over 550k deaths every year. That’s as much as dropping the biggest nuke ever tested on a city.
True but having nukes or a nuclear weapons program isn’t the bar for having devasting sanctions placed on you by western nations these days, merely not being a vassal is. Cuba has no nuclear weapons program and has done absolutely nothing to the United States for decades and the US is still starving them anyway just for being communist.
It would kill millions of Iranians and irreversibly effect Iran on a ecological, societal, and economic level.
The rest of the world doesn’t yet have the capacity to destroy the US, so what exactly would they do in fear of a US weilding nuclear weapons?
Honestly I think I might develop a genuine irreconcilable hatred of the white race if the US nukes Iran. I don’t mean meme “unlimited genocide on the first world” I mean I will refuse to interact with white people at every opportunity and cuss them out if they try to be cordial.
I’m fucking terrified for my family’s life in the events of a nuclear strike.
It would kill millions of Iranians and irreversibly effect Iran on a ecological, societal, and economic level.
How is this any different than if they use conventional weapons?
The rest of the world doesn’t yet have the capacity to destroy the US,
They do in a nuclear war. This is the whole concept of M.A.D.
Like yes it would be horrible but only as horrible as what they already have done to Gaza.
“How is this different from conventional weapons.”
If Iran stops 50% of conventional weapons, that’s a great victory despite the damage
If Iran fails to stop 1% of nuclear weapons, entire cities are gone and land and air is poisoned for decades, if not centuries depending on the bomb used.
The US would have to drop hundreds to thousands of MOABs to do equivalent damage of one nuke
How is this any different than if they use conventional weapons?
My fear is that if the US runs out of conventional weapons or if they want to keep some stockpiled for a future altercation with China, a nuclear weapon would be the “solution” to that problem.
They do in a nuclear war. This is the whole concept of M.A.D.
Russia, and China have the capacity to bring about mad, the rest of the Global south has no defense against an atomically reckless US.
Like yes it would be horrible but only as horrible as what they already have done to Gaza.
I don’t want my family members to have to go through what Gaza has, nor do I want anywhere to be like Gaza again.
Russia, and China have the capacity to bring about mad, the rest of the Global south has no defense against a atomically reckless US.
Yes they do. Russia and China are the defense. A first strike is the only defense for Russia and China against a belligerent usa that is willing to use nukes. It forces their hand no matter who the target is because of the usa’s proven track record of antagonism against China and Russia.
If someone screams over and over that they are going to kill you but they don’t because you have a gun pointed at them and then you see them pull out a gun and shoot someone else are you going to wait for them to face you or shoot them right away?
You are dooming for no reason. The results of a nuclear strike are horrible for everyone but they are markedly worse for israel and usa. You are worrying about people doing something that would hurt themselves more than it would hurt anyone else. Even a psychopath wouldn’t do that. They do not believe the armageddon tripe that some jar heads are spouting. There is no up side to them and all they care about is the upside.
It is a waste of energy worrying about something that is very unlikely to happen especially when there is nothing you can do to stop it.
I hope you are correct. I just fear for my family’s safety. Without the nuclear option, I see the complete retreat of imperialism from West Asia, which I truly hope to see.
Right this is what worries me since it fits the model I’ve been working with for this whole conflict. My consolation is that I misjudged how rapidly we would accelerate into the whole oil industry across the region getting decimated. This does allow Iran to maintain MAD in a sense. They are aiming their weapons like they want to kill people at insurance companies via cardiac arrest, it’s very calculating. As for Israel independently launching nukes when its entire intelligence-military apparatus is in the hands of the USA, I think that may be unrealistic. We can still skate by without nukes dropping.
I think it’s also important to mention that Iran is trying to liberate Palestine. Dropping a nuke on the occupied territories would poison the land for decades or even a century. In this way, Iran’s possession of a nuclear deterrent is a paper tiger. I believe this is why they’ve committed themselves to building up their military capacity with conventional weapons instead.
I think the power of nukes comes from not having an opportunity of using them. It does not mean that the country will be free from wars or other means of conquest, but acts as a deterrence to other nuclear attacks and prevents escalation of war. Let’s remember that when Israel was being smoked by a coordinated attack from Syria, Egypt and Jordan, during the Yom Kippur war, the threat of nuclear escalation made the US to broker an agreement with Israel’s neighboring states. However, nuclear deterrence does not prevent other forms of war, like assassination, sabotage, precision strikes or proxy wars.
Iran is very close to having the ability of manufacturing nukes, though. It has advanced missiles, Uranium enrichment facilities, and abundance of stocks of enriched Uranium. What Iran may lack is technology for miniaturizing the nuclear payload (or not, if they got it from another country or if they stole the tech through espionage).
They also lack an ICBM capable of striking the USA. They have the expertise to develop one though. This could deter the ghouls in Washington, but Tel Aviv I’m not so sure.
Apparently amerikkka is sending a B-whatevernumber Mercury plane over there which is some special plane used to scope things out for nuclear strikes…
Hopefully this entire fiasco is enough to sway certain world leaders to develop nuclear deterrence arsenals of their own, but if I’m being honest, Libya should have been enough of a wake-up call so I highly doubt it.
seeing people talk about iran damaging israel is so difficult bc i keep forgetting im supposed to be sad about this in any way
applying to jobs i would have been overqualified for 5 years ago because that’s all that remains that i haven’t applied to and then getting a quick “thanks for applying but we’re going to move forward with more qualified candidates”
sweet economy we got going on
I don’t know how controversial this will be, but it really should be the opposite way around. Companies or other entities should be going and searching for employees, and they have to beg us to go work for them. It’s infuriating the people who actually make stuff have to go around and beg people who own stuff to…work for them?
5-7 years ago that was the case for me. i was getting hit up on linkedin constantly by folks when i wasn’t even looking for jobs.
when i finally was looking, it was nothing to do a few simple interviews and have 3 job offers at the same time.
then they jacked up the interest rates and that flipped the script again.
Same here… like what the fuck do you mean you’ve found a more qualified candidate?! Send Mr their goddamn Linkdin or some shkt because I don’t believe you.
I’ve had two years of this now in my field, super fun to deal with especially when I have to do presentations and mock-reports for the interviews too.
does anyone know of any marxist writings on the intricacies of bourgeois economy? stuff like inflation and capital controls and mortgage-backed securities. it’s been really hard for me to find anyone who even thinks about that kind of stuff who isn’t a libertarian.
I hope you all have a nice week :D
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How about a great week Comrade? 🫂
Stay safe, keep your heads held high, and keep at it. Development happens in zig-zags, life doesn’t always progress the way we think it will.
As always, communism will win.
We really need to be prepared for when these events happen so we can seize the opportunity.
That’s why we organize! Or try to.
Coasting through work on the bare minimal effort required to do so as I can’t be arsed to have even one cortisol spike during my last weeks. It feels good to be able to speak freely because what are they going to do? Fire me? Lol.
We’re having some action today as there is a general strike! The big protest in Brussels is expected to have tens of thousands of people attending. It’s general strike 7 I think in 1.5 year, but there have been general or regional strikes on a monthly basis now. The unions are at least keeping the pressure on the new government.
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I wish you all a great week comrades!
Recently managed to introduce my queer-plat partner so theory! It was a great experience ^^
Keep your heads up high, don’t let despair take you. Communism will win
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Update on the r/TankieTheDeprogram drama: The ACP mods have been kicked out! Their offensive didn’t even last 24 hours against the Tankies. We are yet to hear from the head mod u/Alexitine about this failed infiltration attempt.
I barely interacted with the reddit, did something happen? All I know is 2 people were made mods as soon as they joined in
Holy terminally online ACP
Mashallah, the situation seems ok now. The traitor being the founder is a bad hit tho
It seems Alexitine has been inactive on reddit for the last 8 months. There is high chance of his account being compromised by a third party.
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Kinda crazy that both faces of Iran in western media (Araghchi and Marandi) are both phd and both fought in the iranian revolution. Both came from relatively wealthy families too and still served, Marandi literally born and raised in the US but went back to Iran when duty called.
Could you imagine the current iranian diaspora going back to Iran to fight for “freedom”?
I can’t imagine the 99% of Iranian diaspora even going back to rebuild. They are out there cheering and “protesting” but if they get what want it wont change their life at all. They will still have to go to their shitty job and pay their mortgage. All that will happen is that they wont have any hate to focus on to help them accept the shitty conditions of life under capitalism.
I wish there was a way without destroying Iran for them to feel the crushing weight of the false hope they built their lives around turning into anticlimactic weight around their neck. Instead most of them will be more bitter and insufferable than before when this war is over.
Marandi was a voluntary child soldier on top of that.
not to be like Dont organize w psl (also why would u listen to me about that) but is it true that they still maintain china is revisionist/capitalist? prolewiki says this view was reaffirmed in 2023 (among other information about PSL failures on ground with things like sexual abuses :/ ) i still have a primarily positive view of them and organizing with them, i’m simply curious
that is not correct. PSL maintains that China is socialist. I think the prolewiki article is a bit of a misrepresentation
that’s good!
Main issue with orgs related to or following the same strategy as PSL is the form of their organizing, not necessarily the stances they take ideologically. They’re NGOs doing recruitment drives, not mass movements. There is a reason why they ultimately try to form a coalition with democrats! They’re rebranded progressives/US Green Partiers
I haven’t seen the PSL form a coalition with Democrats. Do you have references?
Two easy-to-explain crossovers here are the event where Jill Stein, Cornell West, and Claudia de la Riva all did a joint “vote out fascism” drive, and the No Kings rallies.
Another issue with PSL I neglected to mention is their social media focus. It’s a requirement to post like it’s your job and have zero opsec!
