Every single time I use Spotify, after the first advert it says to enjoy the next 30 minutes ad free. Then after a 2 minute long song, I get 5 minutes of adverts 😑. Every single time
Edit: using mutify now, thank you everyone!
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Real x3
Honestly im considering just switching back to piracy
I dunno why you left! I’ve never understood what was good or better than pirating about these streaming services. Everyone says convenience, but I don’t think that’s the real reason, because ads and service interruptions seem way more inconvenient to me than not having my music.
What bugs me about the streaming services is songs from my library dropping off the service with no notice
Exactly. Happy to say I’ve never experienced this issue in my entire life. Like how I’ve never experienced buffering issues where the quality drops, or doesn’t playback at all; never had to pay for a second service because the first one I chose has album A but not album B; never had a power or internet outage stop the music.
It’s amazing that you can do so much more for so much less cost, yet people just keep giving these rich sheisters all their money they don’t have. I think based on my last comment, it’s laziness and convenience is just a spin to make it sound more acceptable.
For me, it’s the fear of getting caught.
I have got caught in my more vulnerable years. That was not a nice experience.
Someone else mentioned a similar comment. Pirating isn’t the only option in escaping the streaming services, though. BandCamp, for instance, you can download your music. They even have a special day every year where 100% of every sale that day goes directly to the artist. They just did that yesterday, actually.
Not just once per year. Next one is in August.
That’s a great resource for someone who owns a credit card or is down with PayPal.
Use a VPN.
That, yes, and then the increase of prices just to kick you in the balls too.
But what pisses ME off, is how they doctor their downloads and replays. It grabs minimal, replays as much as possible, before getting something new. You’re literally paying to be in your own echo chamber.
It is convenience and easy to use. Both are equally important. I already have the arr stack perfectly running for movies and series but lidarr just seems difficult to work with. Been resorting to manually download few from those online tools that take it from tidal or qobuz but it’s cumbersome. Tried to just buy qobuz, tidal and deezer but none of them are available here and couldn’t get around it with VPN either. The only option I have are Spotify, apple, YouTube and amazon which I absolutely hate and refuse to buy because of the companies running it. Are there any plugins people are using for lidarr to pull from api or a script that I can write myself of better torrent sites that have consistent quality and massive library.
Well the original reason I went to spotify was kinda cause someone I know was curious what my spotify wrapped would look like :3… and then I kinda just never switched back, cause I couldn’t be bothered adding all the new songs I listened to on spotify to my playlist at the time x3
This is why I miss scrobbling. I think scrobbling is still a thing, but far less so now with the social media psychology being applied to music streaming.
Me and my music nerd friends all loved seeing each others’ habits, so we linked our local Clementine players with Last.FM, and could see all the stats for each other that way.
I like Spotify for music discovery (I don’t have the time to discover music on my own). $42 CAD per year for premium is worth it for me.
I’m already running an ARR stack, so there would only be about 10 minutes of effort if I ever change my mind and add Lidarr.
Start following YT channels like NPR Tiny Desk Concerts and KEXP. You won’t have to do the leg work, new music (good and bad) will be in your feed all the time.
Having said that, the hunt is part of the fun for me.
I get it, it was part of the fun for me.
But now I’ve got about 60 minutes per day to myself where I am not working or keeping a toddler from killing themselves. I’m using that time to play video games; not hoping I can stumble upon my delicious niche of death/power/trash metal that I’ll listen to for 10-15 hours a week
Yep, living the dream will do that some times.
I wish there was a more focused metal channel. There probably is, I just don’t know about it. If you follow KEXP, Audiotree, and Amoeba Green Room Sessions they do have those kinds of performances from time to time, though.
There are many pros and cons. They are different things. While the main reason is that commercial solutions are selected to be as accessible as possible while piracy solutions require the user to make a lot more decisions (many of which can be made wrong), there area also valid reasons that spring directly from being different mediums. It is not hard to discover these reasons by simply trying it for a week.
I tried Spotify for a couple of years, paid for it even. I have nothing good to say about it, not even the music discovery part. At least, in terms of personal use. It prevented me from listening to what I wanted to listen to more than half the time, even if what I wanted to hear was on the platform.
I get what you’re saying. You’re right that they are different things in some scenarios. For a generic DJ (think weddings, school dances, etc.), it becomes a crucial utility. Service almost any request without having to lug around hard drives/records and have to anticipate what will be requested. Although arguably, that was part of the art of being a DJ for hire at one time, knowing your audience and music well enough so you only bring what you’ll need.
At the end of the day, said services can just disappear for several reasons. That happens, and you’re shit out of luck. You’ll have to either start pirating or start paying for a new service. Either way you’re rebuilding your library.
of course ads are inconvenient, the choice is between doing your own discovery and handling your own library with synchronization and what not, vs paying $12 a month (US).
I personally have no patience nor desire to manage the library myself and discover tracks, so it makes sense to me. But I’d rather not listen to anything than to listen to ads every 5 minutes.
I pay for YT premium and I use it like 40+ hours a week. That’s the convenience, it doesn’t cost a whole lot to me and I can put in 0 effort.
Spotdl - download your entire Spotify playlist
Slskd is nice
I pirate, use soundcloud and buy vinyls as much as I can.
Only reason not to ditch spotify is that you want your donations to go to turning america into more of a 3rd world shithole, starting world war 3 and disrupting the entire global economy, or you really love ai music being shoved down your throats in order to destroy smaller artists and benfit the 3 giant lables.
Plenty of apps play Spotify and YouTube music without ads, I’ve been using outertune.
If only Lidarr was better. I want to be able to have it use Spotify algorithms. I want to give Lidarr a song or genre and have it just start downloading the songs as if it were playing the radio. So I can discover new music based on what Spotify thinks I would like. I don’t like that the wanted is all music ever released.
I miss What.CD so much for this reason. They had the “Artist Web” on every artist and album page that linked you to similar music, and even showing which links were higher percentage matches.
Discovering new music on there was so easy and fun. I even ran across several people that released their music exclusively on What.CD through those webs.
They had the “Artist Web” on every artist and album page that linked you to similar music
Redacted has this.
I tried YouTube today for the first time in years. Its unwatchable. The frog must have been slowly boiling for years to have so many people accept what Youtube is now. Just wow.
I managed to watch about 10 minutes but had about 5 ads during that time, taking up several minutes of my time. It broke my focus and I forgot what the video was about.
Back to Newpipe.
I’ve actually subscribed to premium. YouTube + YT Music.
My sympathy
Yeah I have a few colleagues that did that too. But I dont want to support big tech by being paying user.
Ublock origin + sponsor block makes YouTube entirely watchable and you don’t have to fund this horrible company
I can only watch it with revanced and sponsorblock, otherwise I’d just watch some of my old downloaded stuff.
Why are you not using adblock and/or revanced?
I was using the official YouTube app since I wanted to use chromecast to get a video up on my tv.
I havent used revanced, seems interesting also. But Newpipe just does what I need so im happy.
Already have network wide adblocking but doesnt stop YouTube ads in their official app.
Network wide as in DNS based only goes so far. For your TV there’s Smarttube
Its an app? No i still have a dumb tv. 50 inch plasma that has lasted 10 years now i think. And I like that its not smart, so it doesnt talk to random stuff on the internet.
I guess I will replace it soon but when I do, that tv gets no internet access. :)
Spotify kind of sucks. I’ve been buying music from the musicians (mostly via Bandcamp) for years. Buying one album a month for like $8 means is cheaper than a subscription, and I now have a huge library of music.
Just wait until you hear about piracy!
The free version of Spotify is really not worth it. Even Youtube music gives you a better experience.
I hate that YouTube Music keeps trying to make me waste my bandwidth on videos that have worse audio quality than when it just plays the song. 0/10 smoothbrain design, probably just to sell more video ads.
Can’t you force it to never play a video? My yt music never plays video by itself.
How did you do that?
Settings > data saving
Because I have never habituated the use of Spotify, I don’t think about not having it.
- IOS; Sideloading EeveeSpotify.
- Windows; Specitify.
- Android; ReVanced.
There’s no reason to waste your time on ads.
Last time I checked, uBlock blocked ads on Spotify.
Last time I checked, uBlock blocked ads on Spotify.
Yeah, your right. uBlock Origin block advertisement on the browser. However, Spicetify blocks advertisement within the desktop app and allows for multiple add-ons/ extension plus customizing your entire app.
God why does this not have more upvotes and why isn’t it the first comment. I literally was screaming how someone could be on here and not possibly know of the various ways to get around shitty ads.
YT music with ReVanced is a fucking dream, I love it. Spotify is probably also great. Didn’t even know about the iOS and Windows apps, but I hated iPhone and finally ditched Windows for Fedora so I don’t keep track of those as much.
But seriously they have so many options, especially on Android. Like there’s a FOSS app or patched option for literally everything on there.
Laughs in Navidrome
I can’t get good automatic playlists on navidrome. Nor any good way to automatically mix my collection satisfactory…
Not entirely automatic, but I found that Navidrome (at least when you use a third party client like Feishen or Symfonium) has smart playlists. I use that to write some simple queries like:
By genre:
- Ambient
- Downtempo
By listening habits:
- All Favorites
- Rediscover Old Favorites
- Last 100 Songs Played
- Never Listened To
- Top 100 Songs
and so on.
Obviously, the genre smart playlists assume your music has Genres tags. I use Picard (with the Last.fm genre plugin) for that.
tell me about Picard? I heard of that… Bit never tried it. My collection come from lidarr
It’s a GUI tool that gives you the ability to tag songs in bulk. It uses the MusicBrainz database to provide relevant metadata, and also provides user plugins (like the Last.fm plugin I mentioned)
I get my songs in batches (through Bandcamp and youtube-dlp) every couple of months, so GUI is fine for me.
However, I’m seeing a CLI alternative called https://beets.io/ ? Apparently it is a CLI tool that also queries the MusicBrainz database (or Beatport, or Discogs), and apparently integrates well with Lidarr. I never tried it, however.
I used Spotify once years ago. wanted to listen to the Beatles or Bowie or something.
first song was good. then they started playing Sinatra, then Katy Perry, then someone else.
I removed it just because if I told you to play “X” you play “X”.
so glad I still have my 500gb collection of mp3s.
It’s a trap. Its been that way as long as I can remember. If any music service offers a longer ad for uninterrupted music, don’t do it.
Idk how it can even be considered a trap or legal its straight up false advertising, textbook definition
Use spotube or simpmusic. Its not like spotify actually pays their artists jackshit. Just make sure to send small artists a few bucks if you really like their stuff
For downloading there’s lucida.to
spicetify
I will say nothing else
Ohh, also revanced spotify
Or SpotX for Windows, you just paste and run a powershell command line.
legit I pay for Spotify and I love spicetify, been considering canceling it because spicetify and revanced spotify exist
do it, this megacorp doesn’t deserve your hard earned money
I would but there’s a site I use called RVRB that only works with Spotify Premium AFAIK, and I enjoy the site too much to give it up. Great way to discover new music.
FYI: You can have unlimited advertisement free music if you actually pay for a subscription*. Or pirate.
*not necessarily true for podcasts, in which the podcaster could have ads baked into the recording.
Tbh I kinda don’t mind the podcaster ads when they put their own spin on it and are cute about it
Podcast ads are easy to skip. Still, i pay subscription to my favourite podcast network to support them, and it’s more convenient not having to skip.
This episode is brought to you by Me Undies
*not necessarily true for podcasts, in which the podcaster could have ads baked into the recording.
Actually not.
I like listening to the WAN show podcast from LTT. Amd as most here prpbably know they are very keen on monetizing a lot on their content.
As it turns out Spotify has different settings between podcasts and music. And they offer the creators to enable ads (even for premium subs) inbetween podcast episodes.
So if you queue the LTT-podcast after a regular song, you can get advertisements before and after an episode.
You can scrub through or skip the ad but it requires manual interaction to do so. And hot keys like on (BT-)headsets don’t work.I confirmed their existence with the Spotify support
This is one service where the free version really isn’t worth it.
