cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/29061644
We’ve done it, we got rid of another soulless right wing politician!
Peter Dutton first made his party lose this election and now also lost his own seat much like Pierre Pullover
We’ve still got a government that green-lit new coal power plants in it’s last term, screwed over the Aboriginal community with a poorly run referendum, and still doesn’t give a shit about climate change, but baby steps hey.
We have a basic rule that the headline must match the article. Current headline reads:
“Peter Dutton to leave Coalition leaderless, conceding he has lost his seat of Dickson”
I’ll give you a fair shot to correct it before just removing it.
Done. Only because I respect you.
It doesn’t make sense that rule. But you’ll disagree anyway and there’s never a chance of winning a mod argument anyway.
The article headline you want is pointless and meaningless to the 99% of the world who visits this.
Peter Dutton to leave Coalition leaderless, conceding he has lost his seat of Dickson
I added context and a little bit of juice to it so it would make for a better headline for non-Australians. Did I add some anti Trump sentiment? Sure. Did that misconstrue the content of the article? No.
I understand the current rule makes it easy to mod the place, but it also means you don’t let the OP add context for Lemmy. The rule should be: you can’t misconstrue the content of the article.
Anyway, I appreciate all you mods do and I respect the rules that are in place.
I disagree.
Not modifying headings is a fairly universal rule.
Making it “easier to mod” is an understatement. If you let people “adapt titles to be more suitable for lemmy” or whatever you did, then you’ll spend all day having arguments about what adoptions are appropriate. It’s unworkable with volunteer mods.
It’s so pathetic that the top comment chain is discussing this pedantic issue instead of the actual article. Thank god for this moderation or my experience may have been slightly degraded.
It’s a pretty fundamental aspect of content aggregators. If posters editorialise the articles they post it becomes an echochamber for a very confined range of opinions.
Counterpoint. I posted an article from the Australian national broadcaster. They have their flaws but they aint breitbart.
While I sensationalised the title and added my 2 cents in the original OP I cross posted to this community, I linked to a nice source and created a more world context friendly title, yet far from disingenuous click bait.
The upvotes and the comments are largely based on that.
What this rule is currently accomplishing:
- people will just post sensationalist sources with clickbaity titles and questionable journalism
- or people will create sensationalist titles for neutral higher quality sources and then the top comment is always going to be about this level of virtue signalling.
What’s the point of a community if these are the rules? You’re asking for bad sources and at best or you’re just a comment section provider for legacy media.
Why has everyone started saying “counterpoint” all of a sudden. Every comment is a counterpoint.
Counterpoint. Hopefully people aren’t idiots that upvote sensational headlines.
Counterpoint. Everything I already said.
Counterpoint. You could make your own community where people sensationalise headlines.
Counterpoint: I haven’t noticed that being a trend until this thread.
Didn’t say moderation isn’t necessary, it is. What I said is it’s sad the top comment chain is about moderation.
I opened this post to read comments out of curiosity, I still don’t even know the context of this article because the top comment is about the title which I find sad.
If only there was some way to determine which content was shown on your device.
Like when there’s too much content to show at once, maybe it could be organised in a tall “page” and you could jump around to read different comments.
Although it would be tall enough it’s more like a scroll I guess. You could “zoom” up or down the scroll and read those comments you found interesting or engaging.
Actually, maybe you could get users to promote those comments they found most interesting and demote others.
It’s a shame nothing like this exists.
If only there was some way to determine which content was shown on your device.
Not really sure how to filter posts whose top comment is regarding moderation, pretty damn specific filter. Then again your comment is a large giant nothing burger that continues to ignore the point I’m attempting to emphasize so I don’t think you really thought it through in the first place.
Your original headline was better. New one makes no sense to me M
Thanks @kingofras@lemmy.world ! I know the rules are a pain, but really it helps prevent shitposting. Imagine coming into a community and just seeing variations on “xxx is a dumbass/shithead/etc. etc.” all the way down. :)
All good. Thanks for all you do around here!
I’m curious what your headling orginally was
You can see it in the crosspost
Ty! Makes a bit more sense as it does giver context. The ‘booting to the curb’ was a bit editorialized. But if like me, you have no idea who Dutton and Dickson are it’s a lot clearer.
Just remove it.
People who do this shit are actively making this place worse.
At your service.
That’s what I thought about you when I read your message.
Man fuck em, thank you for adding to the fediverse OP! You should look at non .world communities. .world is the more shitty instance filled with “um actually…” Style users and mods
Lol “the people actually making content are the problem” y’all are fucking idiots.
Can we just be loose with the moderation while the “top” posts don’t even get 2k upvotes.
It gave lemmy content, it led to engaging discussions, who tf cares if the title is bad.
Jesus Christ I don’t understand this mentality
You’ve made 3 posts in 2 years, op contributed to more fediverse in a day than you did in two years.
You really want to make this place better, then quit your bitchin or contribute more and your bitchin will be more understandable
Editorialized titles distract from the content. There’s enough crazy ass shit happening globally that the added sensationalism isn’t necessary.
Either way, maybe calm down a bit lmao.
maybe calm down a bit
While my tone wasn’t cordial it also wasn’t ALL CAPS SAYING KYS
You may be projecting a bit?
Regardless I’ve seen this garbage take on lemmy enough that I’m not going to politely point out the fault. I’ll check their Lemmy contributions and call them fucking clowns if they are saying silly shit like “remove content me no likey for pendantic reasons” while contributing nothing to posts.
It’s alotta reddit entitlement and I will attempt to call it out when i see it and I’m not going to be pleasant about it
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If you take an article title directly from a local newspaper and post it verbatim on World News, nobody will know what the fuck it’s about and regardless of its content, it won’t see the light of day. It’s important that the article title is relevant to the audience.
Okay, provided and example of this.
Jfc, it’s like I’m talking to kids lol.
Having civilized discourse on a topic is not childish. I’m sorry you feel that way.
I hate the fact that it had to be the US that fell to these fascists… but at least it put the rest of the world on notice.
Yeah we kinda hate it too.
Labour in the UK is looking so fucking stupid right now
Well done, Aussies!
The Canadian cons didn’t actually boot Polievre, instead they’re giving him an easy to win riding and a brand new seat in parliament so he can stay on. Which probably means he’ll stick around and win the next election. I hate it.
Edit: autocorrect
Wait what? Source please
It’s about 3 seconds of googling to find out that there will be byelection in Battle River-Crowfoot, which went 81.8% in favour of the Conservative candidate. Polievre will run there, get swept in, and pretend that he represents Canadians.
Telling people to google stuff is so fcking reddit mate.
Thanks for providing context.
Learn to search shit your self, or get off the internet.
No one owes you anything.
Says the person asking for a source… It’s all over the news for last few days.
Yes, but if we all did that there’d be no conversation here.
I don’t think a comment asking for a source is very interesting conversation.
I don’t think a comment stating that you don’t think a comment asking for a source is very interesting conversation is very interesting conversation, yet here we are.
Only if you respond with a link and no explanation.
What would you prefer? No sources? Talking only about insubstantial things that don’t need them? Obviously you’re here to talk about something.
The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. Whether or not something is easily confirmable
https://lemmy.world/post/29025387
You are in “World”. This has been posted several times in the very sub you’re currently commenting in.
then it should have been very easy for you to post a source instead of arguing about it
Not op but https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-to-run-in-alberta-byelection-1.7525104
Basically he asked a con in the highest % of con votes to step down to trigger a by-election. It’s an area where the other parties don’t even campaign, they just hand it to the cons.
There are already talks of “liberals rigged the election” so that he can deflect and not make it a personal failing that he lost a riding that’s historically always been conservative and lost a 25 point lead in the polls in a few months.
What even is the point of “representing your district” if they could just nominate a random person from across the country that never before stepped foot in that district?
Carney could deny the by-election or at least delay it, but that’d cause conservative tears so he’s avoiding the drama.
Welcome to Canadian Parliamentary politics, where every good step forward has an equal and opposite step backwards.
While I still prefer it to the alternative system to the south; where it’s all bad steps. I’d be lying if I said our own system was perfect by any means.
Oh god… We had Jacinta Pryce (extreme right winger in Oz) try the same here tonight. How do they expect this to work? I suppose because it worked for Diaper Don…
Imagine running a campaign so terrible that you lose your own riding, then running off to a province on the other side of the country to weasel your way back in.
I said it a couple days ago that this election reminded me of our 2020 election and what followed. Center-right liberals are only good at driving people away since all they do is tell you what you want to hear and then go behind your back and do the exact opposite. It’s just diet Republicanism here in the US and sounds like it’s very similar abroad. Nobody likes diet Republicanism.
Ya, and also the conservatives lost by 1% of the popular vote, and had excellent numbers overall. I really wish we kicked them to the curb, but that’s hardly the case. Sounds like Australia did a much better job.
That’s exactly what makes me believe they will win next time with little effort. Unless the LPC delivers big, people are not going to vote “anything but conservative” again.
If Carney is smart, he actually pushes for proportional representation. It would save the liberals next election, all the smaller parties would be on board, and even if he gets ousted after, he would have secured his place in the history books (not sure how susceptible he is to appeals to his vanity…)
The good news is that the riding he has to run in is incredibly rural. He’s going to hate it.
Poilievre is a city boy. He grew up in the Calgary suburbs. Then he moved to Ottawa to become an MP. The only job he’s ever had involving physical exertion is when he was a paperboy as a kid. Now he’s going to have to spend some time in his new riding surrounded by farmers. The biggest “city” there has a population under 20k. Everything else is towns, villages and hamlets. Assuming he buys a house in Camrose, if he wants Thai food, he’ll have to drive over an hour to get to Edmonton.
Maybe because the conservatives have such an overwhelming majority in Battle River - Crowfoot, they won’t care that he’s a carpetbagger and he won’t have to put much effort in there. But, I think eventually he’ll have to spend some time in his riding, and it will be a major culture clash.
Yeah. I was really looking forward to not worrying about the CBC being shuttered. No such luck.
I dunno, I’d like to try to be hopeful. The NDP has a real shot to completely rebrand and come back swinging. Convince Charlie Angus to come out of retirement and lead the party, and spend the next however-long-this-term-lasts rebuilding support. I can’t think of a better outcome than having to Sophie’s Choice between Carney and Angus. Imagine having to choose between 2 legitimately good party leaders.
Bravo to the Australian voters. However, you should have purchased the submarines from the French.
That was done by the conservatives
Shouldn’t have bought any subs at all, but sure.
🇨🇦🤝🇦🇺
Well done. The the rest of the world has learned from the Trump catastrophe in the US.
LOLLLLLLL
REST IN PISS YA WON’T BE MISSED LIB-TURD
Be sure to cauterize the wound or else two more heads will grow in its place
Congratulations Australians!
Love to see it.
A very nice change of recent trends across the world
YISSSSS congratulations !! Pierre pull-over. I am gonna steal this.
Love it.
For anyone needing how to actually pronounce this douche canoe’s name is Peepeepoopoo as we say in liberal Canada
While I’m extremely happy about the election results, let’s not forget that the Conservatives were on track to sweep before Trump shit the bed so badly that the entire world had to hold its nose.
perhaps, but they also had an absolutely miserable campaign and labor was phenomenal… it wasn’t a single issue that they won on
Omg I posted this in the wrong thread! This was in reference to Canada’s election.
I guess most of that I said can still be salvaged 😂
There was a definite trump effect, just not as bigly as it was in Canada.
The conservative leader did nominate a a grossly unqualified “efficiency” minister who claimed she would “make Australia great again”.
