I love that one of those names is real.
I mean how much more ridiculous could you get?
No more at all. It’s mathematically perfect.
Insane Vulcan (Most sane person on the show)
She is out of control.
Compared to a normal person, yes. Compared to anyone on the Cerritos, she’s more logical than Sarek
I can just imagine Boimler popping up and going “Mariner! You can’t say that!”
“He’s dead! He doesn’t care!”
T’Lyn is basically Daria, or Vulcan Aubrey Plaza added to the ensemble, and I’m here for it. She’s such a welcome contrast to the other character personalities, but somehow still manages to be almost as chaotic.
Vulcan Aubrey Plaza
Terrific description 😀 Also, I’d commit light treason to see Plaza play a vulcan in LD
Also one of my favorite characters. She’s hysterical and I did not expect that, or at least to that extent. I love her.
Also moopsy.
She is very funny and interesting because she essentially is the “Lower Decks” of Vulcans-compared to other Vulcans she IS somewhat irrational but compared to the Cerritos crew she is the most logical person in the universe
I’d argue she was actually more logical and rational than her former shipmates despite being more emotional. Everything she said in her first episode was completely right, even though it often violated protocol. Logically, either the protocol should be reexamined or T’Lyn should be given more leeway during her off hours. Punishing T’Lyn rather than working out something that would be beneficial to everyone was illogical and irrational. To me, it highlighted the big flaw of Vulcan culture - that their dogmatic and unquestioning adherence to Surak’s teachings is, paradoxically, illogical. Spock eventually understood this, as his line, “Logic is the beginning of wisdom, not the end,” demonstrates. That T’Lyn quoted that line would indicate that she has been studying Spock and is likely following a philosophy similar to the one he arrived at in his old age. Logic is a tool, a means to an end, but it is not the end itself. Those who fixate on being logical as an end unto itself ultimately have no goal and are often unable to see the forest for the trees.
D&D Beyond
This is entirely too clever. And accurate.
Yep, my favorite part of the meme for sure. It works on so many levels lol
Ensign Demoted is like having Kai Winn as a main character for me…
Wha? How do you mean?
EDIT
I interpreted your comment as equating Mariner with Kai Winn.
I named my cat Mariner because of the character. She’s actually my favorite star trek character of all time.
I want off Mr. Nightmare Fuel’s wild ride.
The fact that the guy who voices Badgey is also the same guy who played Kenneth on 30 Rock just makes me so happy. It’s the same energy but turned up a couple notches and I fucking love it.
Ransom is less bisexual and more buysexual. You know that dude is dropping the credits for the deluxe horga’hn on his shore leave trips.
Oh 100%. And I love him for it all the same lol
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There are alternatives
Make like an Orion.
You know not alllll Orions are obsessed with the pirate thing. Many Orions haven’t been pirates for over five years!
I’m so disappointed. I thought you guys were cool!
Put on the patch, swabby.
Paramount+ is the only streaming service I actually pay for, specifically to support the creation of new Star Trek shows. It’s a terrible service, but I think it’s worth it. Especially to make sure that Lower Decks keeps running.
I still pay for it because they haven’t cracked down on sharing. It’s why o still have Hulu too.
If that goes, then so does my sub.
Same. Share my account with a couple friends. I mostly watch Trek, but it has a decent selection of movies and older TV too.
My dad and I both think apple has been best bang for the buck. I’ve let that one lapse, but I’ve enjoyed their originals.
Simple solution: Drop all the other services and get Paramount+. It’s got Star Trek.
It’s such a weird offering. Like I don’t know off the top of my head what they do and don’t own so it’s so difficult for me to figure out in advance if they’re going to have a particular show or not.
I really hope this isn’t the start of a trend but I really suspect that it is where all of the various providers just start opening their own streaming services and start pulling things off the likes of Netflix and Prime.
Are these the same creators as Inside Job? Loved that show. Getting strong inside job vibes
Nope, made by a great guy named Mike McMahan. He was a writer on Rick and Morty before co-creating a show with Justin Roiland. Then he got this gig. He’s a huge Star Trek fan and exceptionally funny himself. The show is really well done without compromising on typical Star Trek ideals and morals. Also includes more easter eggs than you can shake a bat’leth at. It’s an awesome ride.
And the other show he co-created is Solar Opposites, which felt like a Rick and Morty wannabe to me at first, but has actually surpassed it in quality.
Solar Opposites was co-created with the Rick and Morty co-creator so probably makes sense. Also, that Rick and Morty dude (Justin Roiland) left after Season 3.
And nothing of value was lost. It’s pretty clear that Roiland mostly provided the nihilism and gross-out stuff rather than the sci-fi concepts.
I like Justins delivery and he had some funny ideas but Dan Harmon is the guy on Rick and Morty who refined them more. I’m actually really excited for the new season because Dan has more control and has brought over more writers from Community. I should probably check out Solar Opposites.
In a word? No.
In multiple words? Very no.
Much not.
Wow.
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Oh weird. The reply went to my inbox so I wasn’t sure what the context was - i see it was in response to someone else.
Does inside job get better? I watched the pilot and it just felt so insanely forced to me. I really was struggling to actually laugh with it.
It gets good enough that I was pissed when they cancelled it.
I felt the same. I was kind of hooked by it, but had a hard time actually laughing. I watched it and I liked it, but I didn’t laugh as much as I hoped I would.
Same deal with Disenchantment.
Man Disenchantment just can’t get it together. The first 3 episodes are fantastic too. They keep over-complicating and papering over things that spin out of control. I don’t know if the Groening team just can’t handle a serialized show or what it is, but the show just never comes together. They abandon every thread that’s interesting too!
I kept watching until this latest season. I keep saying “unless this one is good I’m done,” and they just don’t quite get there. It’s a consistent C+.
This most recent season is the last, so you might as well finish it off. It doesn’t really get better from what I’ve seen, though. It’s a weird thing where I like the setting and characters well enough, but not the plot. It’d make a great video game.
Elfo’s change from what they set up in the first episodes was very disappointing. He was great.
I wanted so much more from Disenchantment, which is ironic in retrospect. The writing just felt like Mr. Baggins’ morning toast with too little butter scraped across it. Each season could be compressed down to a movie with very punchy dialogue and good comedy beats. Instead, it’s kind of a drawn out slog where the animation is doing a lot of heavy lifting for most scenes.
I hate Disenchantment because I like Bean and I don’t like seeing her suffer.
FWIW, it got canceled after one season.
Not surprised lol
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I think what makes it so difficult is as soon as I saw the listing, I knew exactly what it was going to be, and I found the jokes weren’t particularly better than anything I could write. And I’m not a particularly good writer lol.
It basically ended up being exactly what I expected it to be, an SNL sketch gone a little too long. The premise seems too much like it comprises the entire humor of the show, and I’m just not sure how they can keep that interesting.
Inside Job’s take on the moon landing is this:
The real reason America went to the moon is that JFK had already tried every sexual experience on earth, and he wanted to see what sex on the moon was like. “We choose to go to the moon not because it is easy, but because I am hard.” Unfortunately, the Apollo astronauts formed a free love hippie sex commune on the moon, and the government had to hire Kubrick to fake the moon return.
If you don’t think that’s funny then I don’t think Inside Job is for you. For me the thing carrying the show is how relatable and likeable Reagan is as a protagonist.
If you want more content from those creators watch Little Demon. Danny DeVito plays Satan.
What show is this? A star trek adult cartoon or?
Exactly that: Lower Decks! It’s absolutely brilliant. The first season was a bit rough in places but the rest have been 🤌 There was even a Lower Decks crossover episode in Strange New Worlds, it was possibly the best thing ever
Lower decks and yes, off cannon semi-quasi cannon adjacent but mostly tropes and fun references.
I mean it’s outright canon. It’s part of the canonical Prime Timeline/Universe. That was demonstrated through SNW but also because we were told that it was.
Don’t sell the show as being something other than it is, please.
I mean I would say it’s canon-lite. A lot of the jokes or cutaways don’t really work in a realistic star trek universe but that’s fine.
A realistic Star Trek universe
That Star Trek universe is what caused half of it to begin with. There are an insane amount of random nonsense that happens across all other Trek, equally as crazy as in Lower Decks. It just so happens to be that how they can visually show it is more pronounced in Lower Decks than it would be in other Trek.
There is no such thing as a realistic Star Trek universe and there never has been. Not when you have Abraham Lincoln floating in space, a giant green ghost hand in space, a ‘God’ who is imprisoned inside the center of the center of the galaxy, another ‘God’ who judges humanity, Amelia Earheart frozen in time, Earth Dinosaurs who made spacecraft to escape asteroids, having sex with a space ghost who lives in a lantern, mushrooms that permeate the universe, pretty much anything from the Mirror Universe, ‘Red Matter’ that can stop a supernova, Warp 10 Salamanders, and many many many more things.
Well considering that Strange New Worlds had a musical episode I’m going to go ahead and say that they can canonize pretty much anything they want.
I watch a couple of episodes but couldn’t get into it. Does it get better along the way?
It got better, but it’s not for everyone. Like all Trek, they certainly had a meh start and a first season that was exploring what it should be.
I think the show is technically canon, but they don’t cover a lot of new stuff. There’s a bit of new stuff about Orions but even that is more about the Orion character being ashamed of her weird culture while serving the federation than it is about exploring what it means to be Orion and how their society works.
The show more about highlighting existing Trek, making a bit of fun about weird writing (like JanewayxParis lizard babies) and revisiting old tropes in comedic context (Janeway killing Tuvix to get Tuvok and Neelix back), and exploring the weird implications that have been built up over decades.
One positive thing is that while they do portray plenty of Starfleet as incompetent buffoons, the tone set is generally always positive, in that “normal people are dumb, bureaucracy sucks, but we’re all doing our best” way. Other shows (Discovery, Picard) which I like to call “dark Trek” sometimes focus on “wow humanity sure sucks, doesn’t it?” to give characters an excuse to experience drama, and I’m glad Trek is moving away from that. The positive view of the future is why I like Prodigy despite it’s target audience being 12 year olds.
LD is a show by fans, for fans, that doesn’t take itself too seriously. If you don’t like it when Trek does that (i.e. you hated the crossover episode or the musical episode in SNW) then you should probably skip this one. I think it’s fun, but I can see why other people don’t.
Agree with all of this. But just to add I was very lukewarm about this show at first but slowly warmed up to it progressively. But the SNW crossover episode really pushed me over into full fledged LD fan territory. Even went back and rewatched a lot of episodes and found new joys in them.
I watched the first 10-15 episodes, but I couldn’t continue because it was just so dialog dense. There’s maybe 10 total seconds of episode without someone talking, which made it feel more like an animated table read. That dialog is witty af, but just let me think and enjoy it for a moment here and there.
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