🇺🇸 Want to keep NH from going the way of our New England Neighbors? We’re going to need a lot of help in the mid-term elections. 🫡
Maybe instead of voting red vote… for the actual Libertarian party? Libertarian ≠ RightWing/Red
I hear you. In New Hampshire we have a very high concentration of libertarians, but still not enough to beat the Republicans or Democrats.
As an alternative, many pro-liberty Republicans and Democrats have gotten elected in New Hampshire (about 80 of them) and they make up the Liberty Caucus. It’s similar to the position of Thomas Massie or Rand Paul in US Congress… both are registered Republican, but pro-liberty.I always like to pose this analogy for that argument. You get to choose 1 option:
a) die in a painful fire,
b) die in your sleep, or
c) catch a cold.Two scenarios result in death (one is beter than the other), the third you live. © is obviously the best option, but politicians use the rhetoric of “if you vote for ©, what if the (a) voters win and you die a painful death?!” Obviously, everyone wants option ©, but then they buy into the political rhetoric, and everyone dies in their sleep as a result. They could have had the choice to live if everyone just picked © initially instead of second guessing.
Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost. -John Quincy Adams
Once enough Libertarians move to New Hampshire, we will have the concentration needed to win outright (and pick your Option C). What we are doing now moves the needle, but I think most people here would agree with you. 🙂
Why would you want to vote for a pedophile protecting party? Let alone the fascism and racism?
I’m glad you brought that up. A New Hampshire State Representative was just convicted of distributing Child Sex Abuse Material.
Amazing? I see she isn’t in politics anymore! And she’s been charged! That’s fantastic! I bet you’re just as enthusiastic about holding all sex criminals to the same standard? And making sure all the epstein files are released! You wouldn’t make a poor quality “whatabout” argument here would you?
I agree. Let’s release The Epstein Files. Sounds great to me 🙂
Fantastic! And the fact that the GOP is holding back the release of these files should mean that you wouldn’t want to support them right?
I wouldn’t go that far. But I agree that the Epstein Files should be released. I mean, I posted a video supporting a Liberty Republican. Of course I want people like him to get elected. 🙂
The motion to release The Epstein Files was sponsored by Thomas Massie. He is a prominent Liberty Republican in Congress.
Here is a recent article where Massie argues to expedite the release of the files by appointing a Special Master.
Could you give me a quick rundown of your own take on implementing a libertarian government in your state?
Sure. FYI, I am not the person in this video, if that was not clear.
Libertarians generally believe in limited government both on economic issues, but also social issues.
- While Republicans align on the economic piece, they often want to regulate what we can do with our bodies and support too much policing and criminal justice.
- Democrats on the other hand, are not aligned on economic issues, but want the government to implement their beliefs on social issues.
With the Libertarian government, one can expect economic freedom, and also the protection of personal liberties. This manifests itself in lower taxes and government spending, but also criminal justice reform and protection of due process and privacy.
Edited to add… we have a movement in New Hampshire called the Free State Project . They are working to concentrate Libertarians in New Hampshire from all over the US (and world).
I don’t agree that GOP is aligned economically. They are for a free economic system that benefits the bold, not the free society. In what I would think of as a libertarian society, if no one wanted to pick tomatoes based on the pay being offered, a proper system would force the pay to rise until it attracted enough workers to get the job done. In the current capitalist system (GOP) they will implement outside influences so that they can continue harvesting tomatoes. GOP thinks this is shrewd and allows them to make more money. Dems think this is good because it offers opportunity to low income immigrants. Either way you are exploiting a situation and not allowing the freedom of a closed system. This really is where everything has broken down with US society and makes it appear that the system is wrong and therefore libertarian is the answer. I could go on for hours about all the factors but I’m always curious how your lot would implement such a complex system. I suspect before long you would feel as burdened as before. I see you’re getting push back and I can see why. You would have a much better chance of implementing a libertarian society if you started from the Dem side than the GOP.
Well, we have no minimum wage in New Hampshire, and have repeatedly voted down one when proposed by the Democrats. I think we are on the same page.
It’s not about minimum wage. It’s about whether you let a closed system work as intended. I can tell by your initial comments that you are a Dem hater and will pick any of their more obvious incursions into your freedoms as a reason that only the GOP can save you. Where I really question your assessment on this is that the GOP present you with a freedom that will work just as long as you don’t interfere with their plans. Unfortunately their plans are to own you and all manner of your existence. By the time you see the forest through the trees it will be too late to have any freedom at all. The Dems on the other hand want to implement controls that actually provide you with the freedom to live a happy and healthy life, and does not allow for discrimination against anyone. Now you may say that you should have the right to discriminate (is that true?), but in doing so you are infringing on the right of that other person to live happily in your libertarian society. Or perhaps you believe that in this society that person being infringed could take matters into there own hands (kill you or take you to court?). Is that the freedom you seek?
I can’t keep using conservative vs. liberal or GOP vs. Dem as this continues because neither is the solution to any of our problems. What I can tell you is that there are a large number of people who believe in the survival of the fittest who would not have your freedom in their plans. There are also a large number of people that believe everyone should have a right to a happy healthy life and want guardrails put up to make that as fair as possible. They are the ones who will have the longer term prospect of being led to your promised land. The path you promote in this post will absolutely lead to you destruction.I think your comment is referring to crony capitalism, right? You will be happy to know that Libertarians oppose all bailouts. Businesses should succeed or fail based upon their efforts, not government intervention.
There is an effort popularized by Congressman Ron Paul, arguably the Godfather of modern libertarianism, to end the Federal Reserve bank, which uses various financial levers to manipulate the economy. Most libertarians oppose this type of intervention. They support the previous gold standard, where all US money was backed by gold.
Many of our people in New Hampshire own gold and/or use it to barter. They see Bitcoin as another asset free of government manipulation as well.
Final note – I wouldn’t call myself a “hater” of any group. Even though we all disagree, we all want what is best for our society. I may disagree with the policies of Democrats or Republicans, but I respect them and agree to disagree 🙂
I’m not talking about bailouts so much (which I also am against, unless warranted) but the power that comes with economic success. It is difficult to control this power without rules, with which libertarians may or may not agree. With no control on that power I really don’t see how you will attain this “freedom” you’re looking for. You’re right, hater is too strong a word. I just tend to see your group far more likely to criticize democrats for their perceived overreach (which to be honest is exactly that on too many occasions) rather than the more dangerous free for all that republicans espouse which although appealing to libertarians, is actually far more detrimental to your goals. I’ll have to keep an eye on New Hampshire going forward. I didn’t know there was a concentrated movement there. Send along any links you might think will help educate me. Thanks.
The Free State Project puts out a ton of social media . They also have a weekly newsletter which is pretty good.
I plan to keep posting stuff here on lemmy too.