This is AFTER debloating all the MS bs as much as I can.

The amount of MS telemetry is just mindboggling.

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    It’s my professional opinion, as a current software engineer that what I said is my reality. If your telemetry was useless, it’s because it was poorly done, what can I say?

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      It’s my professional opinion, as a current software engineer that what I said is my reality.

      Are you an expert on the subject being discussed?

      I am.

      Also, there’s just one reality.

      If your telemetry was useless, it’s because it was poorly done,

      How, exactly, can telemetry be collected poorly?

      You totally ignore my points of collecting that much data becomes ineffective and becomes ‘white noise’, as well as how that data would benefit resale more than it would UX analysis.

      what can I say?

      You could just move on, Internet Warrior.

      You’re trying to tell an expert on the subject we’re discussing that they’re wrong about something that they’re telling you they’re very sure of, from many years of experience.

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        I’m using telemetry to figure out what’s wrong, what’s used and what isn’t used, what fails and what’s reliable, what was done when it failed, etc.

        You can call yourself an expert as much as you want, it’s a tool that’s useful to me, so you saying it’s white noises and not useful bears no weight

        Also, calling someone an internet warrior is funny / ironic coming from someone who’s doing exactly the same…

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          I’m using telemetry to figure out what’s wrong

          That’s moving the goalpost. We were talking about improving UX for humans, not bug tracking.

          what’s used and what isn’t used

          You can gather that from non-telemetry means as well. Also, if you’re adding functionality into an application without the analysis and design portion of the development cycle not identifying them as little-used features, then you’re doing software development wrong.

          You can call yourself an expert as much as you want, it’s a tool that’s useful to me, so you saying it’s white noises and not useful bears no weight

          Well, I can’t stop you from putting your fingers in your ears and going “LA! LA! LA! I CAN’T HEAR YOU!” either, but that doesn’t make you right, or smart.

          Me? I listen when an expert in a field tells me something (especially when its for free!), it usually benefits me in the long run.

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            How is it moving the goalposts? It started with you saying the focus group are a good way to know how people use your products. I keep stating they the actual metrics are better in some aspects than the subjective opinion of some users about how they think they use it.

            After that, you’re making some shit up about improper development cycle that comes out of nowhere, but sure.

            What good advice could I take from what you wrote the whole time? “You don’t have to even try to comprehend what the other person said. Just flaunt authority argument and speak with conviction until they stop arguing” is the best I could make out of this whole interaction I guess.

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              Just flaunt authority argument and speak with conviction until they stop arguing” is the best I could make out of this whole interaction I guess.

              You’re not being intellectually honest.