• doingthestuff@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I’m independent but I can’t vote for a vegetable. Do better. I’m hoping some third party options appear. Doubtful. We’re locked into a two party shitshow. Don’t pretend Biden is a good option.

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      4 months ago

      Third party “options” will fail in the electoral college. Because electoral votes (with very few exceptions) are all-or-nothing.

      Non voting, third party voting, helps trump.

      This is not complicated.

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          Why would you rather see Trump in office?

          I promise to not ridicule you. I am hoping for a well thought out response.

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          Yeah like why trump? I liked the idea of him too, when it was vs Hilary. But i regret it, trump drives up to much hate. Hell hes spewing so much nonsense that he riled up a mentally unwell kid who then took shots at him. Thats his fault, hes the one who brought hate and violence into the debate. Im more right leaning but not for the biggoted angry shit.

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      Biden has shown he can do a lot of good. More importantly, we have a literal timestamp in history books of what bad Trump and the GOP is able to do. So then I have a very simple question for you:

      Maintain the status quo and work to fix it

      or

      Don’t vote for Biden or whatever candidate is put forth in his place?

      Yes, that is the ultimatum.

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      You’re not voting for the vegetable. You’re voting for the massive administration the vegetable comes with.

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      Biden is a shit option. Most of us are not voting for him we are once again voting against the dictator on day one in Chief, Trump.

      I too wish that a younger candidate would replace him. Lord knows that him picking JD Vance will get some of the young folks to vote for him.

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      Cool, so you directly or indirectly help the fascist get elected. Smart.

      That’s my problem with other liberals/independents. Everyone has to pass their bullshit purity test (candidates, friends, family, etc). That’s why Republicans win. They stick together no matter what.

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      The third party options that are likely to appear on the ballot in most states are RFK Jr., Chase Oliver, and Jill Stein. RFK Jr. isn’t my cup of tea, but he’s been polling the best of the three-- double digits last I checked, which wasn’t recently. They can’t accuse you of “stealing” a vote from the DNC if you weren’t going to vote in the first place.

      (Just kidding; they will accuse you. This is Lemmy. You’re basically a fascist™ now.)

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      You say “do better.”

      What have you done the past four years to get a better candidate? Biden has done plenty. I suggest you look it up.

      Do better.