• Too Ren@lemmynsfw.com
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    1 year ago

    Not all 200 of the Israeli civilians who died are responsible for actions of the IDF.

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      And not all of the thousands killed or wounded in Palestine were affiliated with Hamas in any way. What’s your point?

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      Why is it when talking about Israeli military or political action it’s necessary to add the word government? With any other country you can say, as an example, “Russia shouldn’t be invading Ukraine”, but with Israel it seems necessary to add something like “I’m talking about the government, not the people.”

      On the other side of things, it seems Hamas is interchangable with Palestine, which is interchangable with the Palestinian people, and none of these get folks pointing out the distinction.

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        With any other country you can say, as an example, “Russia shouldn’t be invading Ukraine”

        On the contrary. We can name “the Putin regime” rather than saying “Russia”.

        Tyrannies typically oppress their own people first.

        The country first oppressed by the Nazis was not Poland or France or Czechoslovakia; it was Germany. The people first oppressed by Hitler were Germans. Including German Jews; but only a Nazi says German Jews aren’t real Germans. But also German transgender people, German disabled people, German socialists, German Christians who refused to put Hitler before Jesus; and eventually any German who wouldn’t kiss Hitler’s ass.

        Who is oppressed by the Putin regime? Mostly Russians.

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        Why is it when talking about Israeli military or political action it’s necessary to add the word government?

        I can’t speak for others, but I don’t blame random Russians, I blame the Russian government- and I talk about the Russian government.

        On the other side of things, it seems Hamas is interchangable with Palestine, which is interchangable with the Palestinian people, and none of these get folks pointing out the distinction.

        Again not to me.

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        How dare you point out this blatant, objective hypocrisy!!! I’m triggered by your rationality and sincerity. You must be a racist, bigot, anti-semite, nazi, fascist, alt-right, 4chan loving, basement dweller.

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          No one said that. Usually those supporting Palestine unilaterally are more radically in the SJW space.

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            Who the fuck said I unilaterally supported anybody? I don’t unilaterally or unequivocally support anything. The devil is always in the details.