I might sound like a centrist, but so what. Ukraine has a problem with corruption, stood with nazi during WW2, and might still have problem with neo-nazi today.
But how is that a reason for a full scale invasion by Russia, especially considering that Russia also has problem with corruption and neo-nazi.
Ukraine did not exist during WW2, it could not have stood with Nazis. While some of the people probably did, so did some of everyone else. We had Americans, Brits, French, Poles and even some Russians who were traitors.
The fact that this Russian propaganda that Ukraine is somehow Nazi actually spreads is sad…
We had Americans, Brits, French, Poles and even some Russians who were traitors.
Not just that but there were also Nazi-like parties in most of the other countries at the time. Germany was mostly unique in that they came to power but it is not as if that type of political movement didn’t exist elsewhere in the 1930s.
Obviously it’s not, but he’s speaking in the context of Ukraine’s EU candidacy, not whether the war is justified. I do also think that we shouldn’t give EU membership to Ukraine before they fully got their act together on topics like corruption and fulfill all criteria of membership. They’re working towards that but it’ll take many years. Giving them some kind of fast track, or acting like they could join in 2-3 years, is IMO a terrible idea.
I might sound like a centrist, but so what. Ukraine has a problem with corruption, stood with nazi during WW2, and might still have problem with neo-nazi today.
But how is that a reason for a full scale invasion by Russia, especially considering that Russia also has problem with corruption and neo-nazi.
Ukraine did not exist during WW2, it could not have stood with Nazis. While some of the people probably did, so did some of everyone else. We had Americans, Brits, French, Poles and even some Russians who were traitors.
The fact that this Russian propaganda that Ukraine is somehow Nazi actually spreads is sad…
Not just that but there were also Nazi-like parties in most of the other countries at the time. Germany was mostly unique in that they came to power but it is not as if that type of political movement didn’t exist elsewhere in the 1930s.
The British monarchy were very close to the Nazis
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/07/traitor-king-edward-viii-interview
Obviously it’s not, but he’s speaking in the context of Ukraine’s EU candidacy, not whether the war is justified. I do also think that we shouldn’t give EU membership to Ukraine before they fully got their act together on topics like corruption and fulfill all criteria of membership. They’re working towards that but it’ll take many years. Giving them some kind of fast track, or acting like they could join in 2-3 years, is IMO a terrible idea.