Manual in person voting is not easily scammed on a scale that can swing an election. The slow, inefficient, in person, physical process is a security feature.
A system being slow and inefficient makes defrauding that system similarly slow and inefficient. To affect an election run on paper ballots you have to somehow physically alter or insert thousands or millions of pieces of paper without being detected. This will mean spending large amounts of time and money and must necessarily involve numerous people.
I don’t get what’s wrong with paper ballots sent by mail. It’s convenient and easy, with a paper trail for recounts. It’s worked great in Washington for decades.
There’s no way to guarantee privacy. An overbearing spouse, an anti-union boss, or a judgmental pastor could all insist on seeing the votes marked as they prefer.
You can fill it out in a booth if you want, there’s in-person locations with help for the disabled and privacy areas.
It’s illegal to insist on seeing someone’s vote, so I’m not sure what would stop such people from requiring this hypothetical person to record themselves voting at a polling location. In general mail in ballots make voter intimidation much more difficult.
Manual in person voting is easily scammed, just look at voting in Russia.
Let me check. *looks through window* It’s not the biggest source of voting fraud. Biggest source of voting fraud is Venedictov’s box - Digital Electronic Voting.
Fuck this shit, everything should be 100% digital.
every single piece of paper is numbered and tracked. (tickets and stubbs, basically). all counting is done by multiple people and watched by anyone who wants. political parties are banned from voting premises.
even better: early voting, in person, up to a week or two before. no crowds.
errors happen about 1 in 1,000,000 with a maximum of a couple hundred, and are caught immediately.
there is no scamming. all of the USA’s voting problems are self-created.
That’s loads of BS. Manual in person voting is easily scammed, just look at voting in Russia. Fuck this shit, everything should be 100% digital.
Manual in person voting is not easily scammed on a scale that can swing an election. The slow, inefficient, in person, physical process is a security feature.
Lol what?
A system being slow and inefficient makes defrauding that system similarly slow and inefficient. To affect an election run on paper ballots you have to somehow physically alter or insert thousands or millions of pieces of paper without being detected. This will mean spending large amounts of time and money and must necessarily involve numerous people.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2024/mar/15/russian-woman-detained-after-pouring-dye-into-ballot-box-video
https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1770364450144489510
Mate, are you high? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owSxq50-DsI
Paper voting also leaves a literal paper trail unlike electronic voting that’s always a total black box in all countries that have tried it.
Blockchain based voting leaves a permanent and indelible record on the blockchain for all to see.
Look, mate, paper voting simply doesn’t work. And Russia is not the only example.
Canada here, paper voting works just fine.
What doesn’t work is when the voting systems are gamed for the benefit of the few, and that can happen with any and all systems.
If you think results contradict content of the boxes, then online voting just allows to do it on greater scale much easier.
No, online voting prevents malicious actors from scamming the voting process.
I don’t get what’s wrong with paper ballots sent by mail. It’s convenient and easy, with a paper trail for recounts. It’s worked great in Washington for decades.
Look at my other replies.
There’s no way to guarantee privacy. An overbearing spouse, an anti-union boss, or a judgmental pastor could all insist on seeing the votes marked as they prefer.
A voting booth was invented for this very reason.
You can fill it out in a booth if you want, there’s in-person locations with help for the disabled and privacy areas.
It’s illegal to insist on seeing someone’s vote, so I’m not sure what would stop such people from requiring this hypothetical person to record themselves voting at a polling location. In general mail in ballots make voter intimidation much more difficult.
Envelope.
Let me check. *looks through window* It’s not the biggest source of voting fraud. Biggest source of voting fraud is Venedictov’s box - Digital Electronic Voting.
Sobyanin approves.
it absolutely is not easily scammed at all.
every single piece of paper is numbered and tracked. (tickets and stubbs, basically). all counting is done by multiple people and watched by anyone who wants. political parties are banned from voting premises.
even better: early voting, in person, up to a week or two before. no crowds.
errors happen about 1 in 1,000,000 with a maximum of a couple hundred, and are caught immediately.
there is no scamming. all of the USA’s voting problems are self-created.
Ahaha! Ok.
Not just digital but trustless decentralised blockchain based so it’s impossibly hard to manipulate
https://xkcd.com/2030/