This is affecting many PC gamers around the world, such as myself, as the last 3 PlayStation releases on Steam have been blocked in many countries. I wanna know what’s your take on this. Please be respectful, and thank you. 😊
I have a psn account, I own a Playstation.
I don’t like the slow march towards all our activities being constantly monitored by someone.
I won’t be buying any pc versions of Sony games and adding my psn account to it.
Especially with PSN being a paid service and I’m sure their goal is to charge for access and all pc games will become subscription ontop
This right here is the only thing I’m worried about
My take: 🏴☠️
Same as I’ve been saying for 25 years:
Fuck Sony, and fuck their anti-consumer practices.
Think about it: even if you can get a psn account and play without a problem, this is being done to exploit and commoditize you.
Fuck Sony.
I don’t understand how you can intentionally put a root kit on your audio CDs and still exist the next year.
I think it’s a stupid hill to die on. You have EA, Ubisoft, Epic, gog, steam, and even 2k and GTA accounts but this is where you draw the line? Come on, that’s just stupid. I would also point out that those also have games that not only require the associated account but also the associated launcher and for single player games.
I get that there are people that can’t purchase the games due to region restrictions on psn accounts, but this is quite possibly the most hypocritical and idiotic circle jerk I’ve ever seen in PC gaming.
I think the difference is that helldivers 2 never required me to log into anything except my steam account to play until only recently.
Just be cause the game says it may require it, but it’s not enforces from day 1, doesn’t change that feeling of having the rug pulled.
People don’t have a problem with needing an account, they have a problem with suddenly needing to have an account if they purchased and played it without one.
Helldivers is a completely different scenario. I’m talking about God of war and ghosts of tsushima and any other game that gets ported over with the requirement from day 1. Helldivers was a screw up, the other games aren’t, and frankly it’s absolutely ridiculous anyone is complaining about it when you have to make accounts for damn near every fucking publisher. How is this different other than the region issues? I’ll give you a hint, it’s not. Pretty sure at this point anyone downvoting me right now is just pissed I’m calling their stupidity out.
you might make accounts for every publisher, but not all of us do.
What do you mean? You have to for Ubisoft, ea, and Activision, I’d love to know how you’re bypassing this but honestly it’s just not worth my time.
Pretty simple. I don’t play games from those companies
So you’re complaining over nothing because you don’t play games that require accounts.
I’m not complaining. You made the assertion All gamers are already making accounts outside of steam, I provided you a counter example saying gamers don’t necessarily have to make those accounts.
So for the population of gamers who don’t make a bajillion accounts with all of the proprietary networks, and just have steam accounts, they can remain steadfast and not make PlayStation Network accounts. There’s nothing particularly compelling about any single game. You can decide how you spend your time and money, and what behavior you want to incentivize. The choice is yours. But you are not powerless
No wonder indie games are getting more popular each year
For me feels someone is chasing a KPI on PSN users that, quite frankly, gives no one but Sony executives satisfaction on bigger number = better number. Steam on that sense made the correct decision to give back the money on people that cannot play a game anymore because of a future requirement (as mentioned by op, not everywhere psn exists). But for me, even if psn is available, you should be able to refuse to further engage on a game based on a future requirement like this and get the money back (same applies if for instance a game all of a sudden has something like denuvo).
So my take away of this is: please, get rid of kpis, it’s about time we learn to get away from hard metrics that can be cheated
When a metric becomes a target, it ceases to be a good metric.
Sony lost me many years ago when they decided it was appropriate to include a PC rootkit on an audio CD. This only lends weight to that decision.
Not to mention they have been hacked several times over the years.
I don’t buy games from big studios. I don’t have this problem.
If no one bought games from big studios, this problem wouldn’t exist.
Go play games that were made by less than ten people. Go play games that don’t have microtransactions. Go play games where no one involved has a business degree. Go eat a vegetable and brush your teeth. Do things that are good for you.
Rockstar, EA, Ubisoft, Epic, Blizzard and probably some more all make you use their launcher/account as well. Sony doing it is no different. Doesn’t make it the nice thing to do but it’s the sad reality of PC gaming. The price of flexibility is having to deal with tons of accounts (or piracy).
No, that’s the price of consuming content from exploitive corporations that leverage capital against you to better exploit you. Stop being a class traitor.
Well, unless you exclusively play games made by small indie studios and that are distributed directly, that’s still the price you need to pay if you want to consume said content while playing on a PC. Or you pirate and thus don’t support the people who created it. I don’t like that situation either and there are some developers I definitely won’t support with my money. However, that decision isn’t based on the need for some account, when it’s trivial to make one. That’s annoying but the dealbreakers should be scammy, unfinished games, predatory, gambling-like micro transactions, bad company culture, etc, not the need to have a burner email account.
Yes, unless you exclusively give your money to people who aren’t exploitative and abusive, you get fucking exploited and abused, and contribute to others getting exploited and abused. It’s 1 + 1 = 2. You’re making it way more complicated than it needs to be. But yes, it’s something you have to be mindful of ALL the time.
We know that Sony has done or does almost all of those things, or worse. You’re defending your abuser. This is a common pattern that many many people demonstrate. Break out. If you think the abuse is going to stop with “needing to have a burner account,” you’re fucking lying to yourself and you probably know it.
You seem like a very angry person.
Having to make a PSN account isn’t exploiting you anymore than you’re already being exploited by having a Steam account, which you do have when you bought the game on PC. You don’t even have to give Sony any real information. Faking one’s birthday and using a burner email isn’t that hard to do. It’s annoying, it’s a dick move by Sony and yes, you should complain about it, but it’s not the culmination of all capitalist evil.
I don’t like this requirement, but I can understand that this is their product and they can do that. The real problem is that I can’t even buy these games as Sony isn’t selling them in my country. What is more hilarious is that I can get Ghosts of Tsushima or God of War for PS5 on a physical disk, but I can’t buy them on Steam. Sony even has official stores where they sell PS5 in some of these countries, including mine. That looks incredibly strange. I wonder what Sony is trying to achieve. Apparently, they think that the end justifies the means. I guess we’ll find out soon enough. I’d bet on an independent PC store.
