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      Blame everyone. My brother-in-law works for a refinery. They get beat up in the news and by politicians all the time, but when they need something it always happens - even in California. Which shouldn’t surprise - people say they want things like clean air until they discover it means gas prices go up (or they can’t drive their car at all) and suddenly they don’t care are all.

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        Oh yes, it’s the minimum wage worker who is at fault because they need gas to drive the only available means of conveyance. Surely if they just walked the twenty miles to work, we’d breathe easier.

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          Why are you blaming the minimum wage worker? It is everybody with a car which is the vast majority of the adult population. Poor, middle class, rich - all of them care about gas prices and scream when they go up.

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            Sarcasm is meant to drive introspection. My point was that, in your wide reaching claim of “blame everyone”, YOU include the minimum wage worker with no options. In fact, I’d argue that most Americans have no reasonable option to cars. I’d also argue that this is by design and mostly influenced by oil producing companies and the politicians they have bought.

            But if you think that we can solve this crisis by blaming people with no options, then please help me understand how that works.

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              People have no options because everyone collectively hasn’t created them. Sure a few people vote for transit, bike lanes and the like, but not many. (and the poor are not better than anyone else at this) . There are options - you can move closer to work, get a different job that is closer to where you live, get a bike, carpool, ride transit… Those all bad options for most people but they exist and so they choose them.

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    Exactly the regs Cheato promises the oil companies he will get rid of if they raise $1B for his reelection

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      The largest controllable methane contributors are livestock and landfills. They need systemic reform, like lab-grown meat or incinerate and capture systems. You can’t stop a cow from farting with legislation.

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        I agree about the meat and dairy infrastructures. And grain production to, which basically turns diesel fuel into junk-food.

        But the leaks from natural gas methane delivery, production and use are much easier to stop though, and would help the supposed greenhouse savings from switching to gas over coal.