I don’t like to see so many political posts in all and so many weird images in comment sections

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    What in the world have I woken up into…

    As an Asian/Taiwanese, I do not understand why Hexbearians feel the need to point out what’s racist for us.
    The picture of Xi the Pooh is clearly a parody and pointed specifically at Xi and the CCP, and not a general racist insult to Asians. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, in East Asia knows that, including the Chinese themselves. We use/refer to it a lot ourselves on our own social media platforms in Taiwan (習維尼, 習: Xi, and Winnie the Pooh: 維尼), and if you mention any of it on Chinese social media Weibo/WeChat, you likely will get banned from the platform.

    Kind of reminds me of cultural appropriation gone out of hand, where Westerners feel the need to be angry at other Westerners for wearing Japanese Kimonos or Chinese Quipaos. Like, no one here is offended. We don’t understand why those people feel the need to be angry for us.

    Edit: I just saw a Hexbear comment on another thread posting that China doesn’t ban Winnie the Pooh because Disney is able to exist. Well, no shit. It’s in the context of Disney. Put that phrase in any other thread on their platform (preferably political) and see what happens, then can you claim that the CCP doesn’t ban the word Xi the Pooh.

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      How dare you not let the, probably also white, tankies decide what is and is not racist towards you. /s i hope they all kick rocks

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      Yeah as far as I know the Winnie the Pooh thing originated in the PRC. Apparently Xi is really upset about it and did a hard ban on it. But it’s kinda a Streisand effect kind of thing so places outside of the CCP’s control kinda ran with it.

      But the hexbears are just conditioned to say it’s racist to try to shut down any conversation about it. I mean it’s their tyrant using censorship for an extremely petty reason. I probably wouldn’t call him Xi the Pooh myself if it weren’t for the fact that this tyrant is so butthurt and petty about it. And that’s what makes it hilarious. And fuck that guy.

      Kind of reminds me of cultural appropriation gone out of hand, where Westerners feel the need to be angry at other Westerners for wearing Japanese Kimonos or Chinese Quipaos.

      Yeah the whole cultural appropriation thing is weird. Sure it’s wrong to trivialize something that holds a lot cultural or religious significance to others. But people generally like seeing others participate in their culture, and they’ll let you know when something is sacred and not for a casual tourist to participate in.

      When I went to Peru I bought a shirt from a tourist shop that was the local style. Everyone seemed happy to see that. One older woman said she was happy to see a westerner wearing the local style and invited me to a wedding. Approval all around… except for one guy that said I probably shouldn’t be wearing that shirt. It was a white guy from the UK (judging from the accent).

      And the kimono thing is really weird. When I was in Kyoto, anyone could dress up as a samurai or a geisha. Not only was it acceptable, the shops would give discounts to people dressed up this way. Because it made things more fun. This may be shocking to some people, but cosplay is fairly popular in Japan. I also saw some dudes in a park cosplaying as American 1950s geasers. Was I offended by this because they were appropriating our culture? Of course not, they seemed to be having fun and nobody dresses that way anymore anyway.

      The idea of a blanket stigmatizing of western people having any participation in other cultures seems like it’ll be a problem long term. If it’s ok for everyone in the world to adopt western culture, but not ok for westerners to adopt anything from anyone else’s culture, then western culture spreads and other cultures don’t. Seems to me like what happens with colonialism, but this time with good intentions! But intentions doesn’t change the result. And if the result is the spread of western culture while preventing the spread of other cultures, seems like a bad result to me.

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        I probably wouldn’t call him Xi the Pooh myself

        If I were a head of state, on a suitable occasion I’d absolutely make sure that the state present is a selection of the finest local honeys. Also some mead for completeness’ sake. Let their diplomatic corps bend over backwards attempting to not insult such a fine offering of friendship.

        EDIT: Oh. This episode of Yes, Prime Minister.

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        One of them called me a nazi apologist because of something similar. Like how in the fuck did you make that connection? They’re delusional at best, a troll factory at worst.

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      嗨,難得可以在 Lemmy 上遇到台灣人。相信我,我懂你的心情。我前幾天也被六熊們搞得很煩。什麼新疆人過得很好、習維尼迷因是種族歧視、台灣是中共領土等巴拉巴拉的。

      我家外面風好大,雨也好大,你那邊呢?

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        嗨 是真的難得在這邊遇到台灣人
        我也沒特別加入甚麼亞洲人群哈哈

        我住北部 這邊風雨現在還好
        明天看起來不會有颱風假了😂
        東部南部跟離島看起來比較嚴重
        希望你那邊安好:)

        Edit: Someone clearly is salty enough to downvote a comment they didn’t read or even bother to translate themselves. FYI, it’s about the typhoon weather here in Taiwan. Not even remotely political/on topic. Pathetic.

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      Hey I wrote that post. The person I was responding to said Winnie is not allowed in the PRC at all, which is false. I then went on to acknowledge that Winnie is censored in other contexts, especially online. Please represent the conversation accurately.

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      It might not be racist in your areas, but I’ve absolutely seen a lot of people be racist with it in the US. A lot of are from there, so I’ll admit we have a perspective bias, but when a large majority of the people we seeing spreading it are from that racist, US grown, bloc of posters, it kind of primes a response to it.

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        Can’t you just accept when your wrong?!

        Go back into you hole now.

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        Sure. But I don’t think it warrants that big of a response, when it’s clearly a parody of Winnie the Pooh, which is yellow itself. If Pooh was somehow white, black, or green, it would be depicted as that. It has nothing to do with yellow skin.

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          I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Winnie the Pooh was latched on to so well by Western audiences. The United States is a perennial winner in the racism olympics. Different crowds can draw connections on different parts of stuff.

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            Oh I’m quite aware that the US has some serious problems regarding racism. I think Winnie the Pooh is just too widely known, plus the Streisand Effect kicking in when it was known that they censor a cartoon bear, that had people just dunking on them with this meme.

            It also doesn’t help when the Chinese are taught in school to love their party and country, view the party as their own parents and not question them, that they become such snowflakes when people criticise their government. It becomes pretty easy to trigger them with just a photo/keyword. Either they blow up in your face, or if it’s on China’s platform the mods will come an delete the post/comment and give out bans.

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              It also doesn’t help when the Chinese are taught in school to love their party and country, view the party as their own parents and not question them, that they become such snowflakes when people criticise their government. It becomes pretty easy to trigger them with just a photo/keyword. Either they blow up in your face, or if it’s on China’s platform the mods will come an delete the post/comment and give out bans.

              📽️

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      As an Asian/Taiwanese, I do not understand why Hexbearians feel the need to point out what’s racist for us.

      You dont speak for billions of Chinese people. The fact that you chose to refer to Chinese people in the third person speaks to that.

      Thank you for telling on yourself and your separatist friends for using racist memes in social media though.

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            I can read Chinese, and understand what people say on their social media. So let me ask you then, when you see a picture of Xi depicted as Winnie the Pooh, do you see it as an insult to your leader, or as racism in general? Cause from what I see, the point of “yellow skin” never came up in the conversations in Chinese social media.

            Also, the original post claims that the picture is racist towards Asians in general, which includes Taiwan, therefore me. I think I have a right to say that I don’t feel insulted by it.

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          You know who does speak for billions of Chinese people though? The guy you’re making a racist caricature of.

          Saying it’s just one person is a thin excuse when it’s a head of state

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            I don’t understand why you feel the need to protect a head of state of another country from being parodied either. If you live in China where they teach you to obey the rules of the CCP, thank the CCP and Xi for everything they provide, and basically view Xi as a god, then yeah I can see why. But you live in a Democratic state. The government is supposed to serve YOU, not the other way around. Sure you can show the leader some respect if you want, but it doesn’t mean everyone has to either. You don’t live in China where you can’t even make jokes about their leader.

            Again, its a parody of Pooh, which is yellow. It has nothing to do with having yellow skin. If Pooh somehow is white/green/pink, that pic would be white/green/pink. You claim that it’s racist against Asians in general, so I’m here to tell you as an Asian that it’s not.

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              I understand your need to reframe my objections to racist caricatures in general as being a defense of someone you’re trying to demonize with your racism. But if you weren’t being racist to asian people generally when you say it’s acceptable to do minstrel show level racism to the right targets, you’re certainly being racist towards Chinese people in general right now when you’re using this stereotype of them being hive minded and easily brainwashed.

              in China where they teach you to obey the rules of the CCP, thank the CCP and Xi for everything they provide, and basically view Xi as a god

              Sounds like Christian fundamentalists talking about Arabs.

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                I understand your need to reframe my objections to racist caricatures in general as being a defense of someone you’re trying to demonize with your racism.

                Who the fuck am I being racist to? Asians? As an Asian myself?

                you’re certainly being racist towards Chinese people in general right now when you’re using this stereotype of them being hive minded and easily brainwashed.

                Nowhere have I said that. Them having that kind of education since a kid is a fact. And you clearly haven’t been on Chinese social media to see what bullshit the pinkies say on there.

                Sounds like Christian fundamentalists talking about Arabs.

                I can link you their textbooks if you want

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                  I’ve seen a Chinese history textbook for kids in high school and it’s just generic history using a Marxist lens and framing the CPC as the current administrative body. They list accomplishments of the party, yeah, but that’s because they have accomplishments they can point to.

                  It’s a lot better than how my American school tried to get me to worship slave owners like Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton.

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    Don’t listen to hexbear users when they say they “defend themselves” from homophobia and transphobia. One user thought the admin of Blahaj.zone was being transphobic for not allowing politics in every community. Hexbear users will literally just lie about the repamant amount of homophobia and transphobia to justify their existence here.

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      That whole thing was a shit show and I somehow was able to stumble across each and every single part of it as it happened.

      It all happened merely days after hexbear said Blahaj was somehow not safe for their LGBT members, so then having those new accounts pull this was so obvious as where could the users came from.

    • Hexbear was/is a shit show. Then again, I hate politics and idiots with a burning passion. (Grew up in the South with Far right idiots belching brain dead arguments) It’s very hostile. I was semi-fine with hostility on Reddit, I’d happily bite and fight. But, I’m honestly trying to have a good experience, so Hexbear is a no-go for me.

      And for the inevitable herd of Hexbearians that will no doubt squawk this post to hell: I am a nonbinary, demisexual, melungeon witch, I can’t stand racists or bigots or *phobes, I don’t care for politics or politicians, but will happily vote for whoever doesn’t try to make my existence illegal!

    • radiofreeval [any]@hexbear.net
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      We defederated blahaj because they allowed chasers, vaushites and ableism. Even 4chan knows how bad 196’s chaser problem is.

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      Going to be real, that’s not what happened. They had a mod in a large community there, that was a chaser, and that was misgendering people. They wouldn’t remove them, so we left. We’ve got a large amount of trans people on our instance and mod team, so we didn’t want to be exposed to that.

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    Hexbear: why do so many people want to degenerate with us

    Also hexbear: Spams every complaint in other instances with unrelated images

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      They are so eager to prove themselves the assholes that people accuse them of being, and then they whine and cry about instances defederating from them.

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        I’m pretty sure the whole thing is a false flag/astroturf to discredit sincere leftist discourse. It seems a lot like a blend of bad leftist parody, and edgy 14-year-olds who fell for it

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          Sounds like r/chapotraphouse in a nutshell.

          Also, I think TheDude was underselling why they were originally banned on Reddit. They were the left-wing version of r/TheDonald. The reason he listed was just the excuse Reddit used to justify kicking them off the platform

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                  r/The_Donald was known for being a toxic cesspool that often went out to harass other subs. r/chapotraphouse did the same thing, they were just on the other side of the political spectrum. The rest of Reddit hated both because they were full of toxic brigading assholes, and if you can’t understand that then you’re beyond hope

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          This exactly. I swear the entire point is to discredit and divide. The FBI couldn’t do a better job if they tried. What I’ve been finding really interesting is the stress they put on being “anti-racist, anti-homophobic, anti-transphobic, anti-fascist, etc”. If you were really those things you would most definitely not need to shoehorn that into EVERY SINGLE COMMENT. “hey it’s a nice day outside, I’m anti-racist anti homophobic anti trans anti fascist btw” Mind you on reddit when chapotraphouse was popular there were a lot of them talking about how they HATE identity politics and basically dismissing anything to do with race. So the pronouns in the names, the constant non sequitors about how they’re actually “more anti-racist and anti-homophobic” than you, etc. It feels like it might just be really deep irony and they’re just memeing it.

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            I mistakenly assumed that they would be more similar to chapotraphouse, but now I see that the 3 year exile has stripped away many of the reasonable people. I still hope some of these users will snap out of it and realize they are acting obnoxiously and unproductively, but the chances of that happening seem slim at this point.

            CTH was aggressively leftist but it was actually funny and self aware. Hexbear seems to have forgotten how to interact with ordinary people.

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              I mean, I like aggressively leftist and most of lemmy that I’ve experienced feels that way. This hexbear shit feels like anti-leftist agitation though. It fucking stinks of feds. If not at the beginning, they’re certainly there now

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                You think feds want you to support socialist countries and point out their achievements?You’re delusional.

                Say hi to your FBI handler for me.

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            and basically dismissing anything to do with race.

            Show me

            Anyway, the rest of your post is basically a deranged imagining trying to cope with leftists whose attitudes are different than you are accustomed to.

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          No. I had an account when the instance was first set up, but I got banned for getting into an argument with a power-user. I wouldn’t say it’s always been like this, but this is definitely what it’s like normally.

          We mutated out of a band of subreddit refugees from r/ChapoTrapHouse, but I feel like the current community doesn’t fully live up to what it used to be.

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            I think it was, by its nature, susceptible to compromise as described above, which has been capitalized upon. Whatever it was, or pretends to be, has pretty clearly been manipulated into a deliberately obnoxious parody that, functionally, obstructs left unity and overwhelmingly benefits neolibs.

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                “People” can engage in civil discourse to discuss those beliefs. That’s not what I’m seeing, what I’m seeing is immediate strawmanning, insults, and overall cartoonish disrespect. That’s not someone with a different belief, that’s someone presenting the most obnoxious possible parody of someone with that belief.

                What’s funny is those beliefs aren’t even that different, I’m pretty far left. This is just hivemind soundbite nonsense.

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            I think they’re bots because I nearly exactly agree with them politically. They’re almost exactly my beliefs, but with the most annoying, self-righteous, groupthink presentation possible. That’s why I think they’re a false flag smear campaign to discredit actual leftists.

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              Consider the self-flattery of assuming a community that existed in isolation for three years just to eventually make you look bad when they became federated again.

              Maybe there is a real disagreement instead?

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                Then how come the interactions have been predominantly self-righteous name-calling? My issue isn’t with the political ideals, it’s with the presumptuous antagonism.

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                See? This is exactly what I’m talking about. “Anyone who doesn’t believe exactly the same as me for exactly the same reasons with exactly the same presentation as me is a transphobic boot-licking liberal!”

                You’ve had no political discourse with me by which to evaluate my political beliefs, but disagreeing with hexbear specifically is enough for you to assume I’m not a “real” communist. You see how this just proves my point, right?

                I thought thinking people who disagree with you politically weren’t real communists wasn’t a healthy mindset to have?

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                Hey look, another hexbear making baseless and incorrect assumptions about my political inclinations, even further proving my point! Keep your corporate shill false flag disinfo to yourself, please and thank you.

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            I’m a leftist (not a liberal, actually leftist). It’s not a difference in opinion, it’s a presentation so outrageously bad it can’t be in good faith. It’s a middle-school mockery of communists, it just makes us look ridiculous to the people we should be engaging with sincerely.

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            This is the most “American that doesn’t understand the liberal is only considered left in the US” comment I have ever seen

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            Why is it hard to believe or understand that this, right here and now on lemmy, really is most westerners’ first time interacting with actual communists? A lot of us dems are pretty open minded and a lot of us want the US to move toward socialism. But most of our exposure to communism has just been “communism bad.” So of course we don’t understand the fuller spectrum of leftism, because our fascist conservative party has forced everything so far to the right, and our education system is abysmal.

            Then we come here and see a bunch of “stupid libs” memes, which from the outside we can’t understand because we identify as liberals (leftists). You folks give off the same vibe of how our fascist conservatives treat us (own the libs, kill a dem to save America, etc), and I think thats why people assume or equate you with Nazis. We’ve never met real communists, and a lot of stuff on the internet is fake. It’s entirely understandable.

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        hexbears are abrasive because we expect most liberals to be venomous and dismissive toward us and not listen to anything we say, even if we operate in good faith. so instead of wasting a lot of energy on a response that will be thrown back at us like dogshit, we’re flippant and cursory. for my part, I actually still respond in good faith most of the time, but I pick my battles.

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      So, the primary reason that happens, and the primary reason I’d vote defederation on them every time, is because their instance has down votes disabled for some forsaken reason. It’s not 100% the users fault, it’s because a comment is the only mode of response they have available for something they don’t agree with. So a negative image macro is their downvote. Due to this, they end up flooding other instances threads and only see a bunch of people who agree with the op of a thread or a post, which of course makes them feel like they need to show their displeasure way what’s been posted. Meanwhile we can see the 500 to 9.2k ratio on the racist hot take.

      The way our instances are run is just fundamentally incompatible.

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      Hexbear: why do so many people want to removed with us

      Where did you get this idea from? We know damn well why: you’re a bunch of coddled libs who are used to the reddit admins protecting you from seeing any views outside the USA overton windows, and you’re now freaking out at seeing real difference of opinion.

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        I’m well aware how fucked up the US is. It created al-qaeda. Hell, this is some crazy secret knowledge you can’t learn anywhere, it’s on Wikipedia.

        Also a hot take, I don’t like the war in Ukraine. I don’t think it should be happening and I wish it would end because I think war fucking sucks.

        Believe it or not, the world is a complex place filled with a lot of countries that do lots of things, both good and bad, and it’s not cool or edgy to just say the US is bad and [insert other country here] is good. Hell, you realize one of the most influential forces in the Chinese government (and a huge influence in the west) is Tencent, a massive profit-focused cooperation. That ain’t communist.

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    I made a post like this on my old instance’s main community and it got flooded by 400+ hexbear comments telling me how stupid I am. No, the only real solution is to make a new account on an instance that’s defederated. Good luck.

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      What instances would you recommend? I don’t really want to leave mine since I’ve been on it for awhile but if it gets too annoying I might want to

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        Blahaj.zone is defederated (hexbear did it first surprisingly). It’s a very LGBTQ+ oriented place so I’m not sure it’s your cup of tea

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            I find that interesting because i am banned from blahaj for being a conservative but hexbears swear im a white liberal. I would have thought hexbears and blahaj would get along nicely

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              When they call you a liberal, they’re referring to the classical meaning of the term rather than the newer definitions.

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                They are saying I advocate free market and laissez-faire economics, civil liberties under the rule of law, with special emphasis on individual autonomy, limited government, economic freedom, political freedom and freedom of speech. Is that right? As opposed to what

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                  I think commenter above means, as opposed to the US-american re-definition of liberal = “Democrat”, somehow. Since the Trump party is absolutist leaning, this makes sense fr them … somehow.

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    I don’t understand why blocking (or “defederating”) instances is such a core part of the design of lemmy but not actually supported on a per-user basis.

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      Defederating is core to the fediverse. Lemmy just uses a shared protocol to exchange content. And as others have said, Kbin has instancr blocking, community/magazine blocking, and user blocking. You could just create an account on a Kbin instance if it’s important enough. You still get to see the same things.

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        Kbin has instance blocking, community/magazine blocking, and user blocking.

        Kbin doesn’t have instance blocking yet, just domain blocking, which is for hiding posts that link to a particular domain. Domain blocking is also bugged right now, and will just hide random stuff from you.

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          I mean, if you want to get technical, none of them have any blocking really. Blocking on any fediverse is generally just the equivalent of muting/hiding.

          Wasn’t aware of the bug though (as I haven’t tried the feature yet, but probably wouldn’t have a way to notice anyway).

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    I would love to block that trash completely. Every interaction I’ve had with any of them and their posts has just given me the impression they are just trolls and nothing else. If anyone truly thinks they are leftists, I question your definition of left. They can go and stay in their little instance and show all the bullshit and talk all the nonsense they want to.

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    any time i see a weird gif reaction i just block.

    it gets repetitive, but that’s the way it is for now.

    at some point i might just move away from shitjustworks to an instance that actually cares.

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    If an instance doesn’t want a negative reputation for doing certain things, they should prioritize not doing those certain things.

    If you act like an arse, people are going to think that you’re an arse. If you want people to think that you’re pleasant, you should try acting pleasant. If someone acts like an arse but expects to be called pleasant, I would think that person is delusional. Too many people are like this, then get upset when people don’t want to deal with them.

    Frankly, life is too short to deal with certain people. Why would I waste my time and happiness for a troll?

    I might block the instance soon. It doesn’t seem like I would be losing much at the moment.

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    Theres no way yet, suposedly the devs are planing to give that option in the future.

    Right now im just not loging into lemmy as much as before, the ambience became way more toxic than the first 2 or 3 months i started using it, and i believe its beacause of hexbearians. Lots of bad takes (pariculary genocide apologism) have been thriving on lemmy since they refederated, whuch was ussually trashed before, so i say they are behind that. And when they have more sane takes, they screw them up by telling you to go read Mao, seriously, Mr “Best politics are the ones that come from a barrel of gun” Mao. He was a fucking thug not a great mind of comunism.

    I even re-made an account on reddit ffs, and reddit fucking sucks because my comments get ignored into oblivion no mather where i comment, and its not shadowbaning i think.

    So my recomendation is try going somewhere else while the option of blocking instances becomes availabe or touch some grass, although grass sucks since it doesnt fight back when asked about politics and it becomes really old very quickly.

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      You can block instances if you use certain apps. I know connect allows you to block instances.

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      Why not join another instance that blocks hexbear? I mean that is the advantage of Lemmy, isn’t it

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        Because i like shit just works and i like that it isnt that heavy on defedration with other instances, but thats probably gonna change soon since it seems we are holding votes to defederate from hexbear.

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      I even re-made an account on reddit ffs, and reddit fucking sucks because my comments get ignored into oblivion no mather where i comment, and its not shadowbaning i think.

      So you’re basically here because you want to be a big fish in a small pond lmao

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          You guys use the word engage so much. No one wants to battle you little fuckers every time we comment, this isn’t your fucking Call of Duty Warzone, it’s social media. Everyone hates you because all you do is fight over everything, you could turn any topic into death threats and it’s just not interesting to anyone with normal functioning brains. No normal person wants to argue every second of every day.

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    With sync for lemmy you can block instances by adding it to the instances filter.