As protests and attempts to quell them spread from New York to Los Angeles and many states in between, President Joe Biden finds himself caught in a series of political and diplomatic crosscurrents without an easy solution.
You can demonize the current president over one issue that is overseas, or you can not vote or vote for the other guy who will not accomplish anything but Israel support and worse.
Weigh what has been accomplished vs your issue vs the alternatives and vote accordingly.
I was actually joking about people throwing their vote away on RFK. Because with FPTP our choices are assisting with genocide or committing genocide and the murder of political rivals.
I’m not defending anyone. I think what’s happening is fucking reprehensible. The alternative happens to be way fucking worse. And until we can get ranked choice, STAR, or some other voting method that better reflects the will of the people that’s how it’s going to be. All the name calling and progressive purity tests in the world won’t change that.
Our voting method is just one of the many myriad problems with how we elect government officials. Even if that was fixed we’d still be ruled by low-population states, and the president can be elected with 20% of the vote.
Not only that, he said recently that these protests wouldn’t be happening if he was in the White House. His positions on Palestine and left-leaning protests have not exactly been subtle.
So that’s American tax dollars that could go to funding things that actually impact Americans directly.
Maintaining peace in the Middle East is important- and the one of the most egregious arguments before all this happened is to provide leverage to keep Israel…. From doing … this.
The reality is that argument is a lie. The war in gaza has set back the goal of peace in the Middle East by decades. Maybe even centuries, while bringing us inexorably closer to WW3.
If Biden reverse course now… he has a chance. If he stays the angry old Zionist, though… he’s going to lose in November.
It always amazes me how many people suddenly give a shit about Palestine when less than a year ago, most couldn’t find it on a map.
But predictably… every election year to no one’s surprise, a group of people find something to use as a reason to suggest to everyone listening- that not voting is a good idea.
My guess is these same people- the people that couldn’t point to Palestine on a map less than a year ago…. WILL be voting this year.
We should all vote for Biden. Biden should stop supporting genocide.
And I get that you want to paint everyone who doesn’t support Netanyahu’s genocide as ignorant children, but it’s just not so. Abuse is not a substitute for defensible positions.
Sounds like people should be protesting for electoral reform so they can vote for the candidate that represents them best, while still counting their vote against the republicans.
You can demonize the current president over one issue that is overseas, or you can not vote or vote for the other guy who will not accomplish anything but Israel support and worse.
Weigh what has been accomplished vs your issue vs the alternatives and vote accordingly.
You could vote for the guy who thinks WiFi gives you leaky brain and vaccines open portals to hell instead. That’d show everyone!
The most fascinating thing about blue MAGATs is how they keep peddling this narrative that leftists will vote for Trump.
None of the leftist discourse online I have ever seen has embraced this idea. Admittedly I never see lemmygrad posts due to instance.
So in your worst case, a fringe group of like 3000 hardcore Putin supporters will maybe vote Trump for fun. The West has fallen.
Maybe when your only talking point is “it’s just a little genocide”, it’s time to reflect.
I was actually joking about people throwing their vote away on RFK. Because with FPTP our choices are assisting with genocide or committing genocide and the murder of political rivals.
I’m not defending anyone. I think what’s happening is fucking reprehensible. The alternative happens to be way fucking worse. And until we can get ranked choice, STAR, or some other voting method that better reflects the will of the people that’s how it’s going to be. All the name calling and progressive purity tests in the world won’t change that.
Our voting method is just one of the many myriad problems with how we elect government officials. Even if that was fixed we’d still be ruled by low-population states, and the president can be elected with 20% of the vote.
ROFL!
If only we had some clue as to how the other guy would handle the protests… oh yeah, we kind of do:
Peaceful Protesters Tear-Gassed To Clear Way For Trump Church Photo-Op
Trump threatens military force against protesters nationwide
Not only that, he said recently that these protests wouldn’t be happening if he was in the White House. His positions on Palestine and left-leaning protests have not exactly been subtle.
So that’s American tax dollars that could go to funding things that actually impact Americans directly.
Maintaining peace in the Middle East is important- and the one of the most egregious arguments before all this happened is to provide leverage to keep Israel…. From doing … this.
The reality is that argument is a lie. The war in gaza has set back the goal of peace in the Middle East by decades. Maybe even centuries, while bringing us inexorably closer to WW3.
If Biden reverse course now… he has a chance. If he stays the angry old Zionist, though… he’s going to lose in November.
It always amazes me how many people suddenly give a shit about Palestine when less than a year ago, most couldn’t find it on a map.
But predictably… every election year to no one’s surprise, a group of people find something to use as a reason to suggest to everyone listening- that not voting is a good idea.
My guess is these same people- the people that couldn’t point to Palestine on a map less than a year ago…. WILL be voting this year.
Can you guess for what side?
We should all vote for Biden. Biden should stop supporting genocide.
And I get that you want to paint everyone who doesn’t support Netanyahu’s genocide as ignorant children, but it’s just not so. Abuse is not a substitute for defensible positions.
Are you going to follow me everywhere to harass me with your propaganda, or can you maybe take a hint and find something else to do.
Follow you around? This is all in the same comments section to the same article.
You just don’t want your pro-genocide propaganda challenged.
Right…. So you’re going to respond to my every comment because you’re butthutt I shut you down.
Get your last word in, troll.
You seem to have confused “abuse and wild accusations” for “shutting someone down.”
At least I didn’t confuse “troll.”
Go find something to do. Im done with you now.
Absolutely protest in order to try to bring about policy changes. But when it comes time to elect leadership, do it wisely.
Sounds like people should be protesting for electoral reform so they can vote for the candidate that represents them best, while still counting their vote against the republicans.