Hmm, 1% of vehicles, the new firmware apparently checks for the issue and displays an error code if detected, that leads to a battery replacement… I wonder what the actual root problem is?

Mine has 0 recalls on NHTSA, phew. Other than two electric coolant heaters failing - known issue with early builds - it’s been great.

I like how the Geese complained about the noise, while this review revels in it. Vrrrrooom PSSHT.

I really wish carmakers would let the turbo noises out and mute the exhaust a little on these turbo 4s, I feel like they do the opposite to not scare people or something, and they sound awful as a result.

Hmm, all three are rather slippy… I wonder if they aired down? I think the lack of a truly locked powertrain kind of hurts the current EVs off road. I mean, you’ll get up things with traction control slipping/gripping individual wheels but only after you’ve thrown the trail around a bit.

I built an “analog” car, an LS-swapped NA Miata. OK, sort of, it had two ECUs - the airbag controller and the PCM for the LS1. Guess what? My Y has better throttle response than that car because er… there are fewer mechanical components in the foot->torque path, it’s purely electrical and instant. It also had little steering feel due to the GM pump running more pressure than the Miata rack expects, haha - hydraulic steering doesn’t magically feel good and unassisted got old real fast (I tried it for a while).

Not disagreeing that analog cars are cool, just pointing out that you gotta be sure what you are after. Road feel means lots of things to different people, but usually it’s killed by things other than electronics. Specifically - tuning for emissions and smoothness, setting the chassis up for easy steering and low feedback, adding lots of sound insulation for less NVH, etc. IMHO, the problem isn’t electronics or EPS or any other single thing killing the feel of modern cars, it’s how they are designed overall. But many modern cars are quite good to drive - try a manual C7 for example. Do you just want a car that feels great to drive, or do you truly want a throwback analog car?

If you really do want no electronics, find an old diesel or carb’ed car. Thing is, you are also gonna have old suspension, and an old chassis, and old steering… That might not be the feel you are looking for.

Also mid 30’s, I fell like the “old web” in general has emptied out. Miata.net is still around, but most forums now are kind of a mess and often corporate owned, like the 4xE one is. Kinda how the web in general is going, really.

Yeah, I realize the irony of posting that on Reddit, haha!

One of the reasons I don’t see network updates as a silver bullet. Ideally, you’d have some way to also update via USB, even on a bricked system, but well - few things are designed that way since it’s extra effort. I should know, I’ve worked on a few myself though outside the automotive world. An auto update rollback process would solve problems like this too, for what that’s worth.

I think this will become more common as automakers stumble through becoming tech companies or whatever. I’m actually surprised Tesla hasn’t botched an update yet, regressions aside.