https://archive.li/X1EST

it’s my pleasure

twitter.com/DevanaUkraine/status/1706748191301845392#m or https://nitter.net/DevanaUkraine/status/1706748191301845392#m

i’m pretty sure this is a real person

edit: not that i’m saying that all people of the UA are nazis.

tbh this meme refers to the recent hunka debacle with how suddenly there was a massive influx of liberals in my country trying to blur the line, stating that the 14 waffen SS were simply fighting the USSR and how hitler was a “lesser evil”.

i don’t get why you feel this would be immediately modern Russian propaganda, this is literally a ww2 unit lmao.

not mine i just found it amusing that eventually we’ll probably see some unironic post stating that “Hitler just wanted to solve the housing crisis, it was a difficult time, it was complicated, he was in a rock and a hard place, tough decisions were made”

excerpt context: after the UA government had decided to add to the list the 110th birthday of nazi collaborator bandera to the list of days worthy of commemoration.

“Glorifying the person whose men committed countless heinous crimes is an insult to the victims and an unthinkable distortion of the history of the world’s most horrific genocide," said Dr. Zuroff.

“Unfortunately in recent years, Ukraine has been one of the major propagators of a distorted version of Holocaust history which seeks to hide or minimize crimes committed by Ukrainian nationalists,” he added.

Weitzman added, "It is clear that Ukraine is choosing to rehabilitate antisemitism and to censor history.” He noted that, along with the Bandera national holiday, the Ukrainian region of Lviv announced that 2019 would be “Stepan Bandera Year” and that a book exploring the antisemitic actions of politician Simon Petlura, who led 1919 pogroms against Jews, was banned.

“By joining with other countries that are rewriting history Ukraine is showing how little it has learned from the tragedies of the past. These actions are a disgraceful affirmation of Ukraine’s darkest past and an absolute rejection of democratic values,” Weitzman concluded.

mind you there are streets named him. You aren’t even slightly suspicious that maybe the narrative we’re being told on MSM is fabricated?

https://archive.ph/YE2PU

I am aware, I have heard that the Ukraine has been suffering from rewrites of history as the south Americans rebels do with “states rights” in the ACW, what leads me to think that the defilers have long since won is the lack of resistance to such narratives. What brings alarm is the passive lack of response from the Ukrainian president to the recent hunka event

nitter.net/ma000111/status/1697979758892519638?s=19

I’ve read from UA sources that the 14 waffen ss are considered heroes back there.

They have streets named after them. The one Ukrainian I spoke to doesn’t know anything about this but said each city is different. I don’t know if I can trust her, might be selection bias

We (leftists, socialist, communists) are out organized.

Pierre just wants the reigns he doesn’t actually give a shit, nobody has said anything about the ss monuments or Jack, they’re all equally spineless, the way I see it is PP tjust wants the position and is smearing him trying to pin it to JT.

Really, you can’t think of any examples of fascism growing in Canada? The giant trucker anti-vax movement?

I refuse to dismiss the entirety of the trucker protests off as an “anti-vax movement” as i have shamefully in the past, while i agree their leaders were fucked, pat king w/ his superior race comments, and the MOU stating they only recognize the federal government as as the governor general and senate. not to mention that an stupid amount of money in the gofundme leaks came from foreign shores.

They were the only option (from a lack of proper leftist organization) available for Canadians who have been suffering from rising costs of food, gas, rent, utilities, who are angry, confused and, probably misinformed especially as the government was doing a rather insufficient pandemic (an ongoing one mind you) response for the people as small shops closed down, and seemingly more focused on the corporations. it was a good mix of reactionaries and legitimate people with legitimate concerns, we should learn from our mistakes and do a better job of explaining to the people on a more intimate person to person level and at doing government policies.

if you are willing to entertain a socialist view on this (they are god damn trots though), but yeah you’re right in being aware it was a fair split of reactionaries, crypto-fascists, and people with genuine concerns (kind of like right now)

Poilievre’s fringe party and conservative attacks on trans rights, women’s rights, and people’s access to healthcare?

you are absolutely right that the assaults on trans rights, women rights and, the privatization of public health care is concerning, this again i imagine has most likely been a mix of reactionaries and crypto-fascists who again have sus backgrounds leading people who most likely have valid concerns that were never addressed and mislead immensely (but when you live next to the massive American media machine and their capital is magnitudes more than that of any leftist creator, it’s an uphill battle all the way).

You might just want to look a little harder, because this just looks weak

i hope we both understand that poilievre is an “economic liberal/ neo liberal” and that most parties in canada a “liberal democracy” can be said to be “liberal”.

i should make no illusion to the idea that poilievre is using the hunka debacle to garner more votes, my disdain extends to him as well, mind you he has been careful with his words and not use the word “nazi” because he too wants the Ukrainian diaspora votes, and the fact is, a non negligible amount of ukrainians consider the 14 waffen ss and their ilk to be heros abroad (not an annual national holiday, nation wide commemoration of the 110th birthday of the collaborator, which is jan 1) and at home

edit: when i said clear cut i hope to express that i doubt most people will know of hitlers policies towards transpeople, but the gradual progression of:

letting nazis in country < nazis accidentally honoured by country’s gov < nazis honoured by msm country’s news paper

is a progression most unread people will understand, a progression most people will find concerning because… i do nazi them nazi-ng it lol

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embarrassing? tbh i’m suprised nobody is worried about an actual fifth column

https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/uk-en.en.678dbe89-65154e19-e1d54d40-74722d776562/https/komb-a-ingwar.blogspot.com/2011/03/blog-post_21.html

Maybe. I recall some American general prediction saying war in 2025 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/air-force-general-predicted-war-china-leads-unprecedented-training-exe-rcna93030

China is the only nation in the world with unconditional no first use nuclear strike in the world, which means America or her allies would have to turn the key first (If the cpc hold their word under duress).

Until then expect to see the propaganda efforts turn up, and the rapid dehumanising of the citizens of the peoples republic of China and her allies.

We’re definitely in a cold war of sorts though, with America trying to contain China with those military installments on the string of islands boxing in the PRC ports

Then lastly on Sweden. First of all, it is historic that now Finland is member of the Alliance. And we have to remember the background. The background was that President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021, and actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign, to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what he sent us. And was a pre-condition for not invade Ukraine. Of course we didn’t sign that.

The opposite happened. He wanted us to sign that promise, never to enlarge NATO. He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second class membership. We rejected that.

shit should i take my life savings out of my stock profiles and bank

how propaganda works in real time

and if you lose, you just didn’t pay off the right people