thanks for the graphics, I wasn’t accessing the study. i’m familiar with confidence intervals and p values but this is great for anyone who isn’t.

the first year’s plot looks within range, but the 72% point is a major change! something definitely happened with 13-24 year olds that year, but especially 13-17 year olds.

I see a definite occurrence that the suicide rates increased after those laws. and i’m wondering how we can be sure that it was because of the laws and not something else that happened around the same time?

i think that a reliable study reasonably isolates out other possible factors.

good for them for having such a large sample size. i admit i’m confused though, the results are an increase “by 7–72%.”? i wonder what is up with this huge range. how can we have confidence in this?

i wish the abstract explained what types of anti-trans laws were passed, cause of course different laws end up having different effects. that could explain the uncertainty in the results range. in this case we’re concerned with how a lack of gender affirming care would directly influence systematic suicide rates, so I’m still looking out for more evidence on that topic.

thanks, i’m reading this link and looking for data about suicide rates. this report is talking about a collection of self-reported data about suicidal thoughts, which many people can have and fortunately not go through with it.

I also see a statistically significant correlation, and i’m still looking for a reliable causation and data on suicide rates. how do we know if the lack of gender affirming care directly leads to increased suicides in a systemic pattern? perhaps the same people who cannot access it also are likely to have other things in life that could cause terrible suicidal thoughts or actions. i’m wondering how we can rule this out.

so different people have different “explanations” for the suicide rates. has there been any unbiased evidence to explain it?

the suicide numbers go up?

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that was my first thought, but upon further inspection… the T in “with” is uppercase, and the Ts in trump and epstein are lowercase, looking like crosses. so maybe he’s sending a message about christianity as well.

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disclainer: LGB people are not a monolith, so I cant speak for them all. However, some folks are concerned that society is “transing the gay away”: encouraging transition as a way out of facing homophobia, instead of fighting homophobia itself. For example, many conservatives are okay with any relationship that looks straight, and see transitioning as a way to conform to hetero-normativity (notable example: Blaire White). There are some gay activists who want to ‘change the narrative’ on this form of transition in order to fight homophobia and encourage gay acceptance instead.