Done! https://rqd2.net/c/mud

Big list of arguments I’ve seen and some counters
Anti Para Arguments

“Go to therapy to fix your attraction” Counter: Not possible in most cases. Conversion therapy rhetoric. A lot of paras don’t want to get rid of their attraction. Not all paras are disordered. It can be dangerous to disclose your para to a therapist

“You shouldn’t be proud of this” Counter: Being proud of yourself never hurts anyone. Pride is a rebellion against a society that hates you. Requiring paraphiles to hate themselves to be accepted is extremely cruel. A paraphilia is nothing to be ashamed of.

“You should kys so you don’t hurt people” Counter: Paras are no more likely to hurt someone than non-paraphiles. Telling someone to kill themselves is never okay.

You should be kept away from kids/animals/(insert thing you’re attracted to)" Counter: Paraphiles are capeable of self control. Just bc you’re attracted to someone doesn’t mean you’re going to hurt them, people have crushes on people who don’t like them back all the time.

Anti Transrace Arguments

“That’s cultural appropition” Counter: Cultural approption is when a piece of a culture is taken from its orginal context and history. Transrace people are not taking anything from its orginal context and history. The majority of transrace people are respectful in the way they learn about and practice their culture.

“You support blackface” Counter: Blackface is something done by racists to make fun of and demonise black people. A transrace affirming their identity is not making fun of anyone.

“You’re fetishing poc” Counter: There is a big difference between having a fetish for something and identfying as that thing. Fetishes are not inherently bad, it’s okay to have fetishes and express those fetishes. This is just the autogynophile terf argument.

“You just have internilised racism” (usually used against POCTW people specfically) Counter: Internilised racism is a seperate thing, there is a difference between “I want to be x bc it feels most right to me” and “I want to be x bc people told me being y is wrong”. Different people deal with internilised racism in different ways, if someone wants to deal with it by identfying as transrace they should be allowed to do so.

Running low on spoons, might be back with more later.

I remember a simlarish depiction. I used to watch Eastenders (a British soap oprea). A few years ago they had a story line with on of the charaters, Bex and her teacher Gethin. Bex was 16 years old, her teacher had been giving her private tutoring and they grew quite close. Gethin got injured and Bex helped him and in the emotion of the moment they kiss. Gethin leaves, stops being her tutor and insists it was an accident and he has no feelings for Bex and continusly reminds her they can’t date bc it’s illegal and she’s a minor. Bex continues to pursue him, insists she is mature enough to be a relationship with.

Eventually Bex’s mother, Sonia, finds out and gets really mad at him, even tho Bex continues to insist she’s not hurt by him and begs her mum not to pursue any charges. Sonia tells Gethin’s landlord who then evicts him and chases him out of city.

The way it’s played protrays Gethin as the bad guy for kissing her and “leading her on” and Bex as a foolish teenager making a mistake and putting herself in danger. At least that’s how I think they meant it. It’s strange bc they very much show Bex as not being harmed by this, even after Gethin leaves she doesn’t show any signs of trauma from the kiss itself, only anger at the way her mum reated and the fact that Gethin left. It almost makes me feel like their was at least on pro-MAP on staff trying to write a youth showing their autonomy without seeming too suspicous/controversial. Especially with the Star storyline around the same time.

(Don’t want to fully explain the Star storyline bc this is already a long comment but summary with a lot omitted: Star is a teenager who fakes her name and age to get into a bar and sleeps with one of the adult characters(Jay) who doesn’t know she’s a minor. Neither is depictated as the villan, it’s just treated as an unfortuante accident and said that Star shouldn’t of lied as it put Jay in danger)

Weirdist part: 16 is the aoc in britian. I’m not fully familar with the law but I still think Gethin and Bex’s relationship was illegal as, legally speaking, Gethin has what’s known as a “duty of care”. Esentially he can’t date her bc he is her teacher, not bc of her age. Had Gethin been a random stranger he would have no duty of care so I think the relationship would be legal. Her age isnt even an issue from a legal perspective despite how often they bring it up.

I actually coined that last one! Here’s a link to the original post https://archive.ph/VIHpt I’m pretty sure I’m the one who answered it on the survey too. If by name orgin you mean etamolgy, I just took the first four letters of triggered. Don’t know about any of the others tho.

Yeah, I definitely spent a while in that camp. Even after I joined the radqueer community, I was admint I was only a fictto MAP for the longest time. Took a while for me to realise and accept that I just like all kids,

my mum and dad were 10 years apart and had one of the healthist relationships I’ve ever seen. Weridly tho, my dad still looks disprovingly at any age gap over 20 years, even between adults. You’d think being in a healthy age gap marriage for over a decade would disprove that to him, but he just decide he was in the “safe” range and bigger age gaps were still wrong.

My absolute favourite is Komala(kind of its complicated). My other favs include Meowstic, Greedent, Seaking, Talonflame and Alolan Muk.

I have a lot. I am into Avatar (I actually kin Azula and I dated Ty Lee in that life lol). My 3 main fandoms rn are Xenoblade, Pokemon and Grey’s Anatomy.

From a quick pluralpedia glance there is reincarnitive https://pluralpedia.org/w/Reincarnitive. Pluralpedia is one of the best places to look for plural terminolgy.

A friend of mine: don’t worry, I’m not calling you a nonce

Me who is very much a nonce: laughs nervously

(Nonce is a derogatory british slang term for pedophile)

Maybe a like a more litereal online libary were people could write radqueer stories, fanfiction and the like. I currently plan on making a few fanfics with rq characters on ao3 but it would be nice to have a space dedicated to radqueer works of fiction.

I’d love one! It’d be nice to have somewhere to post my terms bc I’m currently just putting them in a few small discord servers.

While I do sometimes have my biastophilia and MAPness intersect like a lot of people would sterotypically think it is quite rare. I see it intersect with my meso and gerantophilia a lot tho. I also see it intersect with my traumaphilia bc I find myself more attracted to the after affects and trauma it would leave the person with than the actual act itself. I’ve seen other biastos talk about unrealistic fantasy of the person starting to enjoy it but that is a turn off for me, I prefer the suffering. I am both autobiasto and regular biasto, I find basically all my paraphilias are both.