@escarpment @faab64

The pier is nothing but an alibi for the USA support of genocide, both after AND before October 7.

@tness@venera.social I think antisemitism is largely an European problem, and that Zionism and antisemitism go hand in hand. Get rid of European antisemitism, you get rid of the raison d’etre of Zionism.

@tness@venera.social

Where I’m at, when the Europeans came, they decimated our population, put those who survived either on chains or at their service, robed all the gold and silver, taught us for centuries to hate ourselves over being brown, and imposed their beauty and cultural standards as superior, and when we finally thought we kicked them out, they remained the owners of everything via capitalism and imperialism. So I really wouldn’t know about this “multicultural Europe” of yours.

@tness@venera.social I’m sorry, but by “European Values”, do you mean these?

@Alexandrad1@mas.to @Kirilov@kolektiva.social @gimulnautti@mastodon.green @KarunaX@mastodon.world @ymishory@tooot.im @appassionato@mastodon.social @bookstodon@a.gup.pe @palestine@a.gup.pe Kirilov just blocked me, LMAO.

@Kirilov@kolektiva.social @Alexandrad1@mas.to @gimulnautti@mastodon.green @KarunaX@mastodon.world @ymishory@tooot.im @appassionato@mastodon.social @bookstodon@a.gup.pe @palestine@a.gup.pe

I don’t want a link bro. Don’t be a coward, defend your point with your own words. I dare you.

@Kirilov@kolektiva.social @Alexandrad1@mas.to @gimulnautti@mastodon.green @KarunaX@mastodon.world @ymishory@tooot.im @appassionato@mastodon.social @bookstodon@a.gup.pe @palestine@a.gup.pe

Why don’t you illuminate us with an explanation of how a fallacy of authority fits the statement “I know Rashid Khalidi has good academic credentials as an historian, I expect his work to be rigorous”. I’d be delighted to read your explanation.

@Kirilov@kolektiva.social @Alexandrad1@mas.to @gimulnautti@mastodon.green @KarunaX@mastodon.world @ymishory@tooot.im @appassionato@mastodon.social @bookstodon@a.gup.pe @palestine@a.gup.pe

I don’t want to converse about logical fallacies. I’m more interested in debating the correctness of Khalidi’s title, which was the topic a few posts back, when you jumped in.

@Kirilov@kolektiva.social @Alexandrad1@mas.to @gimulnautti@mastodon.green @KarunaX@mastodon.world @ymishory@tooot.im @appassionato@mastodon.social @bookstodon@a.gup.pe @palestine@a.gup.pe

1. Argumentum ad populum and fallacy of authority are not the same, you pompous prick.

2. You are making general opinions on a book you haven’t read, based only in your inability to grasp the title.

3.You wouldn’t call a book titled “History of World War 2” biased. Why do you call a book that tells the story of the 100 years resistance to colonialism in Palestine biased? It was a war, by any definition

@ymishory@tooot.im @KarunaX@mastodon.world @appassionato@mastodon.social @bookstodon@a.gup.pe @palestine@a.gup.pe When a description of reality sounds biased to you, the easiest explanation, and the most correct one, is that it’s your own bias the one that keeps you from engaging with reality.

@AndrewR1234@mas.to @oconnell@texasobserver.social @gusbova@texasobserver.social @palestine@a.gup.pe

That you claim there’s no genocidal intent on Israel actions is groundless. There’s ample evidence on the subject, from Netanyahu’s Amalek references, to IDF soldiers chanting “there are no uninvolved civilians”.

https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=2y1BIwsZs6E

@AndrewR1234@mas.to @oconnell@texasobserver.social @gusbova@texasobserver.social @palestine@a.gup.pe

Your comment is appalling. People are not fungible tokens, 25 thousand births will not make 25 thousand murders Ok.

The demographic growth doesn’t annul the fact that Palestinians where expelled from 78% of their country, nor the fact that there’s ample reason to claim it’s genocide from public statements alone.

Cutting water and electricity are also genocidal acts.

Denying the entry of humanitarian aid trucks is also a genocidal act.

@polezaivsani @palestine

Nothing that happened on October 7 justifies the mass killing of 23 thousand people, more than 7 thousand children. The destruction of Mosques and Churches, of urban infrastructure both in Gaza and the West Bank. The mass detention w/om charges of Palestinians, that have reported torture and some of them dying under torture. “Execution style” killings by the IDF.

1,200 killing do NOT justify 23,000 ones.

@polezaivsani @palestine

I’m not the only one accusing Israel of carrying out a genocide, Raz Segal, Francesca Albanese, Illan Pappé, Finkelstein, Craig Mokhiber, and the lawsuit the South African government submitted to the ICJ also claim Israel is carrying out a genocide.

Why do you believe you know better than all of them?

@polezaivsani @palestine

So it’s “repeat a lie a thousand times until it becomes the truth”.

I can quote sources for all my claims.

@polezaivsani @palestine

The history of the Ethnic cleansing of Palestine didn’t start last year, but in 1948.

Israel has murdered, raped, forcibly displaced and imprisoned with out charges (kidnapping) Palestinians for 7 decades.

In 2018, Israel shot at peaceful demonstrators in Gaza, deliberately maiming them.

Go educate yourself. Read up on what the Nakba was.

Gaza is not a State, and the ones carrying out a genocide are not Hamas.

Long live the Palestinian resistance.

@palestine

Now compare the attitude your government and your officials have. When Russia invaded, The West decided to massively arm Ukraine so it could defend itself, but when Israel started mass murdering civilians, YOUR GOVERNMENT KEPT ON ARMING THE AGGRESSOR, ISRAEL!!

The F-16s Zelensky begged for? Israel has them, and is using them to destroy hospitals and bomb refugee camps.

We, in the so called Global South, see this. And we will remember.

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