Yeah I fully agree with this, I just got heated because the other guy seemed to imply that anarchism was inherently doomed because humanity is naturally violent or whatever, it’s a horribly nihilistic worldview.

I’m not an anarchist, something that was obvious from how I spoke about them like an outsider, but this is such a disingenuous comment I’m gonna ignore that bit.

You do not care about reality – this is made obvious from your belief that property laws are some sort of sane and natural order, instead of being hackneyed together by generations of rich landowners with their own short-sighted, trite, and nonsensical goals. The violence committed by these freaks for more oil or sharecropping land or some other garbage is actually the opposite of normal humanity, unless you live somewhere where your neighbors shoot each other because they were bored and wanted a second house.

You see, within civilization, humans generally share spaces. There are no borders in the household or passport stations in the farmers’ market. Anarchism is the belief that this can be expanded all the way to the international level; the comparatively simpler idea expressed by this celebrity is that there shouldn’t be a military dedicated to attacking random people who are just trying to live in society because they’re “illegal”, especially considering this society is already built on attacking random people and the attackers, by their own definitions, are actually already here illegally. The fact that this simple slogan pisses you off is a genuinely fascinating concept and makes me think you aren’t too happy to abide by the social contract.

“No-one is illegal on stolen land” is a staunchly pro-immigration, anti-colonial, and anti-borders statement made by people in anarchist-adjacent circles. You’re arguing about laws and legal processes that people with this sentiment hate and seek to abolish. Everything you’ve stated here is correct, but in this context it doesn’t matter, isn’t it pedantic?

Oh don’t worry, I’m under no delusion it’s some sort of leftist utopia, it’s just that Manitoba could be FAR worse. Please keep fighting for those rights regardless of whatever laws are in place, don’t just assume it’s all settled.

I’m in Texas and have been looking into Manitoba, and can assure you based on their parties alone that it’s “only right-wing in the context of Canada” 100%.

I have no idea what adding Minnesota would do though, it would completely change politics in the area even if it was its own province, never mind the US actually allowing that to happen.

Good on people who come (very late, granted) to realize and denounce their own stupidity, but:

1. Absolution requires effort. If these people don’t actually attempt to unlearn the bigotries that led them here, then they just want to slide back into communities that are nicer and avoid consequences
2. Do not financially support them. The money spent on this shitty merch is better used on their victims, there are many food banks in your community that can often triple whatever money you donate to them.

Protests are basically giant rallies of people in your area who are motivated by similar grievances as you. The protests by themselves don’t do much but you can discourse and connect with other people who attend them.

You’re coming in here arguing that being mean to fascist goons is bad, and then when multiple people disagree you go “I actually, uh, didn’t mean what I typed directly in my comment!!”

Both of the things you’ve typed here are genuinely useless. Go talk to your neighbors and help them instead of being a counterrevolutionary on Lemmy. There’s a comment a bit further up on this very thread with extremely useful information, go read it.

This is an extremely egregious and dishonest comment. You are ironically waxing poetic about the law that the current admin has torn to shreds with the help of this lawless force that everyone else actually wants to stop. Let’s take a look here:

• Yes, we have to change the rules. It’s actually very rare that oppressive laws are overturned through entirely legal means. “I can kidnap, torture, and kill people if the state says it’s okay” is not the same as “Holy shit suspend that immediately I don’t care if it’s against the rules to do so”.
• Yes, violence is excusable if the target is committing heinous acts of wanton violence. We shouldn’t finger-wag murderers
• This goes back to point one, if your ““democracy”” allows for people to be violently oppressed like this, it is a total farce, and NEEDS to be entirely revamped.

You are, painfully obviously, someone who cares more about “stability” and “order” (dude just let the ruling class brutalize people every now and then, don’t rock the boat too hard) than any sense of actual justice and safety. Stop defending literal politicians, who INTENTIONALLY put themselves in this situation and BLOCK anyone actually willing to help stop this madness, while you encourage the already-oppressed masses to take on more trauma with far fewer resources. Note how you don’t even end your comment with any call to action like mutual aid, just “lalala these frustrated netizens are fake people block your ears!!”, fix this

But the problem is that this reinforces their denial, which leads to them continuing to support other organizations that do the exact same things.

This isn’t a *minor distinction", this is the very thinking that let ICE grow and expand for two decades.

Race isn’t real but the effects of enforcing it are, what a weird comment this is

Pretty sure he was already talking about the fertility of teenagers at some point, so this is more of a 360

I think it’s safe to say the literal best thing to do when confronted by ICE is to try and leave, they will just ignore any identification and it’s better to not be caught alone, have some people near you and work on cardio if you can; of course this doesn’t help much with the door-to-door shit, so having emergency+legal contacts is also very important

Everyone’s already pointing out “well doing nothing isn’t helping” but I’d like to point out there are many steps between Doomscrolling and Suicide By Cop, such as talking to your neighbors and joining community projects to build your local resiliency.

Go to the library or search up stuff like “charitable orgs [zip code/city/whatever]” and see what you can do. You can’t do anything if everyone around you is too broke and stressed, anyways.