Mmmmmm delicious irony.

Yeah stupid people wishing they had real solutions is a way better outcome than stupid people cheering for the worst outcomes thinking they are solutions

Dont worry skroo!

The 13th Amendment

continue to be a slave state*

Like the rest of the entire country already is*

My point being that it should be more shocking to people that this is the way of the country as a whole instead of framing it as a California only problem.

Wow you really put a lot of cheap assumptions on what my point was instead of just waiting for me to answer (especially when I said exactly why it was a spin the first time…), you kind of suck. Stop assuming the worst as step 1 in how you deal with other people.

The spin is they took the truth “this will continue to be legal in California and the US” and spun it into something that makes it sound like its just California, like were upholding some ancient California law. It is a shifting of the narrative that this is legal across the entire country, which is much more concerning, and making it seem like this is a California only problem.

Also the title saying the US is collapsing, being active tense, implies that this decision is part of the cause or a symptom of, like this hasn’t been in the US Constitution since 1864.

But yeah were definitely collapsing, just for other reasons lol

“Are you waiting to receive my limp penis!?!”

This is a spin on the truth. Slavery has never not been illegal always been legal per the US constitution, as long as the slaves are prisoners. We had a prop on it to disallow mandatory labor in prisons in California. We voted against it because Americans have a hard-on for punishment. Personally I think being caged is punishment enough, ESPECIALLY when you consider the sheer volume of for profit prisons in the US. Hurray, private business can keep doing slavery in the state -_-

It has been and still is legal in federal law across the US

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that is because theyre selling it to the business, not the end user. They dont give 2 fucks about your experience

In this case, id have to say they’re full of shit. We did this to ourselves when the government chose to chase the needs of the capitalist over the people that make up the country. That’s like tossing a match into an active fire and saying you started it.

Ok, so someone says something negative about the Dems, and because you have seen other people use Isreal/Palastine as a reason for abstaining from voting, you brought it up unprovoked here. Have we come full circle to what I originally said? Can we answer my question this time around?

What’s the world like when you can paint every topic with a single brush and walk away feeling smug?

This is very true, a lot of people get wrapped up in their bubbles, either the internet bubble or their own personal bubbles, so they believe the bubble when it says “everyone is left or right” but there’s a ton of people sitting in the middle just apathetic towards being invested politically.

The kicker is that those people in the middle are villanized by both sides as being a part of the other side. Instead of them trying to bring them to their ideology, they push them away. But this was what the constant polarization through wedge issues get you, an easily divided populace that is fighting about things the political figures on either end don’t actually care about, so you vote for those issues instead of the ones that prevent the ever increasing cancer that is billionaires.

Its all a distraction.

I am talking about the voter swing required for trump and GOP to sweep the whole government. That isn’t because of Trump supporters, they would vote trump if he personally knifed their mother in front of them. That is because of disenfranchised fence sitters who put zero effort into educating themselves and then vote for a change of leadership off of a gut instinct that a different person cant do worse. Its ignorant and wrong, but look no farther than worldwide elections this year showing a huge ousting of incumbent officials. Inflation has been unreal, and the uneducated think the president controls literally everything (see the “I did that” stickers on gas stations nationwide) People want change but they don’t know how to get it, and here is a man yelling and screaming about how he is going to change shit.

I know its difficult to imagine being this ignorant, but i truly believe this is how a lot of people operate. Its not malice, its ignorance and apathy.

The difference is that their statement seems appropriate to the context, your statement seems to be roping in something that does belong which makes me think that you make every argument about Israel/Palestine. Hence the comment about a single brush, since I cant imagine how else you could make this about that.

The sheer number of trump voters I’ve heard say they were originally gonna vote for Bernie is larger than you would imagine.

People are angry the system is rigged, trump channels that anger and says he will solve it. Granted he won’t and they’re dipshits for believing him, but that’s how it goes.

Good question. That’s the problem with labeling shit by a term that gets hard to nail down instead of expressing the intent behind your usage of the word. My definition of a centrist (the unwarpped version) is someone in the middle of left and right, but everyone on the Internet hears in the middle of Dems and GOP, which puts them quite to the right.

The more we use labels that are constantly evolving the less we can communicate effectively

What’s the world like when you can paint every topic with a single brush and walk away feeling smug?

Around 15-20 years ago these idiots so easily manipulated with labels in the US were only on the fringe (or at a minimum, less obvious in their existence), now they’re a political force. Do not sit there in smug self assurance that it definitely cant happen there, because that’s how it begins…

Then again I dont think the first world countries of the world have been cutting education for decades now. And you also didnt have Regan and Citizens United.

If you think that this sort of thing is just in America I have a bridge to sell you…