The big running joke with engineering new grads is that you sell your soul to work for the defense industry.

Also he’s a huge anti war advocate. He did volunteer work in Yemen and saw how bad it got when Saudi Arabia and Iran were just using Yemen as their proxy war playground.

My son is an engineer at Stellatis and was offered a buyout. He is strongly considering taking it and applying to a competitor. He wants to stay in the automotive industry and not get stuck working for the defense contractors like so many of his classmates.