Mullvad is sort of like the “Qubes OS” of the VPN world, no port forwarding and no openvpn support while proton is more like the standard Linux experience that allows you to be more flexible.

Choose depending on your threat model, I personally use mullvad because I don’t need the features that they don’t support yet.

What do you use now?

Yk what thank you, there’s always room for improvement

Just use mullvad vpn

Consent? What’s that, huh?

Its either mullvad or nothing all day everyday

well said honestly, totally agree with how you put forward your argument and framing here

man i love contributing to open source projects so much, its my way of saying thank you to the developers if I don’t plan on supporting them through donations

the only tiktok trend I support

“Come on guys, I know I’m wealth hoarding and I most probably didn’t take human morals into account when I acquired it, but I have feelings okay!”

telling me I’m new and I don’t have context isn’t contributing anything to this conversion.

you can start by making a counter argument, someone mentioned GNU tool chain reliance, they did a good job of swaying my opinion.

I don’t know what ur asking tbh, rephrase.

I’m not saying they have to support other init systems, I know it’s my responsibility and i made it work, I agree with you.

didn’t say that distros have to bend for my will in regards to needing to include options other than systemd, everyone is free to publish whatever they wish and If I don’t like it, I won’t use it, simple as that.

I’m just expressing a concern where over relying on one init system will limit options

that’s systemd lock-in for ya

You’re right that the GNU toolchain is massive, but the distinction lies in "modularity versus integration". GNU tools are a collection of separate programs that happen to work together, you can swap bash for zsh or ls for busybox without breaking the whole system. systemd, however, is a tightly coupled suite where the init, logging, networking, and DNS are interdependent.

The idea of Linux isn’t just about running big software, it’s about the ability to compose a system from independent parts.

When a single project dictates the entire stack and makes it nearly impossible to replace just one component without rewriting half the OS, that crosses the line from toolchain to platform lock-in, which is a fundamentally different threat to user freedom than a collection of large but separable GNU utilities.

still worth to migrate to artix, I think its amazing (some tweaking needed)

I didn’t say people have to explore, I know its a choice

The “less pain” you experience today might come with the cost of being tied to the systemd ecosystem. If a future version introduces a breaking change or a bug that affects the whole stack, there is no easy “switch” to a lighter alternative without rebuilding the system, its closely tied to the Linux kernel and does more than it should.

though I agree with you on being scalable and easy to maintain that’s one of the pros of it being a monolithic suite, everything just works

mullvad vpn refuses to run on non-systemd init systems, had to do heavy tweaking to get it to run but ultimately ended up using the “manual” wireshark method.

I don’t have anything against mullvad, I’m a huge fan of their service but that’s one example