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    1 year ago

    The same data as a bar graph composed by statistica:

    A bar graph showing deaths and injuries related to the Israel-Palestine conflict. Raw data given below.

    Raw data:

    year Palestine Deaths and Injuries Israel Deaths and Injuries
    08 3202 853
    09 7460 123
    10 1659 185
    11 2260 136
    12 4936 578
    13 4031 157
    14 19860 2796
    15 14813 339
    16 3572 222
    17 8526 174
    18 31558 130
    19 15628 133
    20 2781 61

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  • I’m not attempting to argue communism is not bad in my comment, I believe this is even more true if you believe communism is bad.

    I am strictly saying comparing Nazism and communism does not give a full picture, which is, AFAIK, something that experts in Soviet history, some of which I quoted, agree with.

    What I’m trying to say is that comparing the two you risk either reducing the weight of crimes committed by Nazis, which are worse than those committed in any communist state, I hope you’ll agree and also risk loosing the detail distinguishing the two.

    I would elaborate further, but I want to make this comment shorter to make what I’m saying a bit more accessible.


  • I don’t think comparing communism with fasism, at least when it comes to exterminating ethnic minorities is accurate. this is an opinion shared by academics, including coauthors of “The Black Book of Communism” (the book which claims communism killed 80M-100M people, though the upper end of the range is the one which has more attention. this number is disputed, again also by coauthors)

    I could explain why I believe you shouldn’t do this in my own words, but I will use the words of Nicolas Werth, one of the three main coauthors who distanced themselves from the book:

    Death camps did not exist in the Soviet Union.

    and

    The more you compare Communism and Nazism, the more the differences are obvious.

    Another quote I will give is from Amir Weiner an American historian and associate professor of Soviet history at Stanford University who wrote:

    [w]hen Stalin’s successors opened the gates of the Gulag, they allowed 3 million inmates to return home. When the Allies liberated the Nazi death camps, they found thousands of human skeletons barely alive awaiting what they knew to be inevitable execution.

    I sourced these quotes from Wikipedia: “The Black Book of Communism”, references 19 and 14.

    My point isn’t to say the Soviet Union, or other states which had or have Marxist-Leninist governments are without critique, but that comparing them to the III Reich, at the very least diminishes the crimes committed by Nazis and makes analysis of the aforementioned States more muddy.