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I disagree with this, though. The data shows that the VAST majority of people who commit CSA aren’t MAPs, but rather get off on having power over others. The youngest person that Epstein trafficked was 14, and while it’s possible to argue that he was just an ehebophile (and therefore still a MAP), it seemed way more likely that he just targeted young girls because they were easier to control, adding to his lust for power.

I’m not saying that MAPs don’t start relationships with children (which is still counted as CSA, regardless of consent), but when I’m determining whether someone is a MAP or just an abuser with a power kink who targets the most vulnerable members of our society, I tend to guess the latter, as that’s just statistically more likely. Again, I’m not saying MAPs don’t commit heinous acts (especially given our positioning in society driving some of us to dark places), but I generally assume that if the child wasn’t consenting, then it wasn’t a MAP. I’m okay with being wrong 1%-2% of the time.

Agreed. I would say that about all types of pornography, though.

I’ll just add that they should compensate the child well and make sure they understand that it will almost certainly end up online at some point. If they’re fine with that, go for it.

Disregard my previous comment. I thought I was replying to a different post lol.

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I don’t think there are any billionaires who are actually MAPs. If there were, we might actually see some pushback on all these anti-MAP narratives in the media. They’re likely mostly teleios and peer-attracted people who get off on abusing people who can’t fight back like children and their workers.

I don’t know. Maybe that’s a hot take.

There’s tons of famous MAPs, but I guess it depends on what kind of group you’re aiming for. If it’s celebrities, we can mention people like Michael Jackson and the Dalai Lama (multiple Dalai Lamas, if I’m not mistaken, including the current one). If it’s activists, we can mention Harry Hay, who was an incredible ally to all sexual minorities.

Is anyone watching “Delico’s Nursery”? If so, would it go well on this list?

Yes and no? I discovered this side of myself pretty much as soon as I had internet access as a child, and lolis were my main outlet (still are), but I also remember reading some underage “literotica” that I knew was somehow life-changing. Looking back, that’s probably because it was the first non-anime representation of adult-child sex I ever experienced, which opened me up to understanding myself. This reminds me, though. I need to find more good loli anime to watch.

I was going to say we should protect this woman at all costs, but it seems she already got bullied off the internet…

I’ve been out with Marvel movies for a while, so I originally passed on these, even though I love Spiderman, but your analysis made me curious, so I went and watched both movies, and yeah, it was easy to place characters as MAPs in the queer community and added several layers to the story. It makes me want to watch more shows and movies through this type of lens and see if anything pops out. I’ll bet there’s tons of movies we could say reflect the average MAP experience (even if it’s in hindsight).

Happy Transage Pride Day from a trace M/YAP!

I don’t see why not. There might be a more fitting term for it, but I don’t know what it would be.

This is the definition I will be using going forward. Thank you for putting it in such simple terms!

Just going off what I heard, but I believe it was a picture of Hololive’s Natsuiro Matsuri and her mom in a threesome. Matsuri isn’t a loli (just flat), but she is VERY OPENLY a lolicon to the point where she made her mom’s VTuber design into a loli. I think the fact that Matsuri is very openly a lover of little girls lends a lot of credibility to the idea that Vaush could be one as well.

Honestly, my first thought was “content created by open MAPs”, but that may be because I want to see more content created by my community as well. Assuming that’s the case, it’s kind of hard to come by, as any open MAP on any social platform is banned on sight (for the most part). Your best bet is to just stick with any Japanese creator who is openly lolicon/shotacon or most anyone who does a lot of Blue Archive content on the lewder side (because BA is notorious about it’s fanbase loving all the “cute and funny”).

Snow White was 14 and the irl Pocahontas was 12 or 13. Imagine if Disney kept that detail in. We’d have an entire generation thinking more fondly of age-gapped relationships by now.

I’ve been thinking that Peter Pan is a similar type of story (though you don’t hear many references to it normally).

Cuddles.

Orgasms.