• SulaymanF@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      The 2018-2019 nonviolent protests in Gaza that the Israeli military fired on and killed 226.

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          Israel creates racist apartheid laws and illegally starved Gazans in a blockade and you’re mad that people nonviolently broke some of those laws in an attempt to demand their human rights?

          Human rights violations and unjust imprisonment of an entire population are not something anyone should be expected to just “obey.” Next you’ll be telling me Jews were breaking laws when they tried to escape the Warsaw ghetto.

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            First of all, Israel left Gaza in 2005. They no longer govern it. In addition, they have been allowing huge amounts of cash flowing into the region and they are even unable to impose a full blockade considering the border with Egypt. If Palestinians are so peace-loving individuals, why the relations with Egpyt are far from ideal, too? Hence why it is mostly Hamas responsible for the situation in Gaza.

            So yes, a response is fully excepted if members of a different state (that by the way wants to exterminate Israel) illegally cross the border.

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              No. Israel pulled its settlements out of Gaza but they land and sea blockaded it since 2007 and turned it into an open air prison and kept bombing it. Israel controls all the borders, including the Egypt crossings due to their treaty with Egypt that allows them veto power over who can cross from Egypt.

              Egypt is a dictatorship that mistreats minorities, if you want to compare Israel favorably to them then be my guest.

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                It literally cannot control the Egypt border considering the fact they are not in. If Gaza had normal relationship with Egypt, maybe we could start believing Israel is the problem here but if none of Gaza’s neighbors/any other Muslim countries are willing to take Gazans in, the problem must be somewhere else than in Israel.

                Edit: Before 7th of October, there were more people of Gaza coming to Israel on daily bases rather than to Egypt. Why are we blaming israel of “occupation” and not Egypt?

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                  Based on what are you saying this? Are you trying to make it sound like there is something inherently wrong with Gazans? Genetically maybe? Or are you trying to imply that Egypt’s attempt to prevent a Nakba 2.0 is somehow actually just a reflection of this weird ass racist trend?

                  If Israel puts people in an open air prison then bombs the shit out of them so hard that everyone starts calling Bibi Hitler, then how is this the fault of Gazans?

                  Unless I detect racism of course. That smug “smart” racism with the whole “iM jUsT sAyIng” attitude?

                  It would be better for everyone if you would refrain from beating around this bush.

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                    8 months ago

                    I have never said that there is something genetically wrong with Gazans. However, it’s a simple fact no one is willing to take them during the war compared to Ukrainians, for example.

                    It’s an unfortunate situation for them because the leading party is an extremely radical leadership that radicalizes the whole population. Is it their fault? In my opinion no but at the same time certain attacks and escalations cannot be justified.

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              First of all, Israel left Gaza in 2005. They no longer govern it.

              This is such a pathetic excuse, not to mention just a parrot point of pro-Zionist racists.

              So they left Gaza, and yet they control every fucking thing that goes in and out?? Looks like they just left so they can keep making this pathetic point while still cutting off water and electricity whenever they feel like it.

              Get that head out of that ass please.

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                If Israel controls the import so much, how come they have so many weapons and so much money?

                If they were as locked as you say, they would not be able to create such an attack.

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                  Dude, smuggling.

                  If Israel didn’t control so much, it would not have been able to block aid and water and electricity and internet with ease.