• MrJameGumb@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    They appear to be saying that if they aren’t allowed to own military style automatic weapons for “home defense” then they want all freedoms of speech revoked across all media platforms. I’m not sure what one has to do with the other, but that seems to be the gist of the message.

    Edit: my poor spelling

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      8 months ago

      The first assumed premise is that we all agree that free speech extends across modern mediums, it’s a rhetorical device to show why it’s weird to say the second amendment doesn’t apply to modern technology.

      Honestly, as a liberal, I don’t understand why other liberals oppose modern firearms in private hands. The entire purpose of that amendment is to allow the weak in our society to fight against dictatorship and tyranny; the right to own firearms is an eminently liberal value.

      In a world where we have this terrible person openly trying to set himself up as dictator, with a nonzero chance of actually achieving his goal, how can you reject the amendment that specifically exists to allow us to resist people like him? It has to extend to effective modern weapons to do us any good.

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      8 months ago

      What you appear to be saying is that both major political ideologies in this country are actively trying to strip our rights and what they disagree on is which should be taken first

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      8 months ago

      Love the “military” argument. LOL, like it’s some kinda gotcha.

      American’s have always had equivalent, and usually better, rifles than the military. History lesson. Title sucks, and that premise isn’t asked or answered. Also, heard the presenter is a right-winger. Still, nothing he’s saying in untrue or a half-truth.

      And what do we think the guys who put that in there would think if someone had said, “Nah. Let 'em have guns, but they gotta be nerfed against the military. We want the cops and military all powerful.” 😆 “Have you not been to any of the previous meetings?!”

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        8 months ago

        Yup. They literally encouraged people to own and operate private warships that could be used for coastal bombardment. The modern equivalent would be a guided missile cruiser.

        They would probably have LOVED everyone having AR-15s if it were an option 😂

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        8 months ago

        We want the cops and military all powerful.” 😆 “Have you not been to any of the previous meetings?!”

        So an armed citizenry prevents unjustified government violence? I think you’ve skipped a meeting or two.