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The House on Wednesday passed a bill with broad bipartisan support that would force TikTok’s Chinese owner to either sell the hugely popular video app or be banned in the United States.
Republican leaders fast-tracked the bill through the House with limited debate, and it passed on a lopsided vote of 352-65, reflecting widespread backing for legislation that would take direct aim at China in an election year.
The ban is a good thing because China is an autocracy. Freedom of thought is not acceptable there, otherwise you wouldn’t know what I mean when I say the great firewall of China. Their influence is already vast.
The US isn’t a beacon of democracy, but the distance between a flawed democracy and an authoritarian regime is massive. The US Congress is largely ineffective, but this is one thing they’ve gotten right.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/sep/25/revealed-how-tiktok-censors-videos-that-do-not-please-beijing
They have banned all US based social media, so honestly, why TF do we allow theirs? I get that it sounds xenophobic to an extent to ban an app because of the country it’s based in, but I 1000% would not be surprised if China is using this to find kompromat on US citizens and playing the long game to recruit spies / gather sensitive information. The app has the most permissions of any social media app and they are gathering a shit ton of data.
I completely disagree with your reasoning. As I have stated above, all that I’ve ever been shown is some funny videos sure, but MOSTLY average people like myself who are constantly fucked by those above us all and voice their opinions, freely, on the app. I finally have an app where people aren’t posting pictures of their selves trying to pretend they’re happy. I finally have an app where I can hear others who think about the systemic injustices constantly bombarding us in this digital era.
It’s quite funny you say they got this one right, but they also allow censoring of our “news” stations here, and the content that is on american social medias. you do see that, right? So, it’s okay in your eyes, for a foreign app to be banned, but no restrictions for the apps that american companies deploy that also have a narrative to push? you don’t think this could’ve been a SWEEPING bill that includes ALL social medias? Why just this one? It has been proven that Russia and Chinese bot farms are swamping Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. Why is this not something they care about? Truly, I want to hear this from you.
Why do you think they want to ban this ONE app? To prevent data from leaking out? What data homie? Millions of people crying out to each other that their system is rigged against them?
Are you insane?
I never said the bill was perfect. It is a good first step. Ideally all social media should be held accountable, but they are the ones who make political donations, so the chances of major overhaul are not all that great.
They want to ban Chinese ownership of the company because it’s politically popular, but it does also have merit. China can and will exert it’s influence to it’s advantage.
Tiktok might be a good service right now (…debatable) but it’s threat comes from being able to push China’s authoritarian agenda.
And insults have no place in reasonable discussion. Who’s mind are you going to change by calling them insane?
Nothing has to be perfect. It just has to work, and mostly work for the people. When it comes to laws, that is.
Now, let me understand you clearly. You still think that banning some silly little app, where probably in your opinion (since I take it you don’t use it for the “debatable” part) it’s just a bunch of people doing challenges or dancing or whatever silly shit you have in your mind of what’s on there, but you don’t seriously think there are just a little more important shit going on right now than some stupid app, who’s only authoritarian reach on me in the last 4 years is the stupid ads paid for by the shitty companies here in America, like KIDS being told that since they can’t afford to pay for their lunch, they don’t get to EAT!?
And you’re worried about a fucking APP?!
Holy. Fuck.
You seem awfully worried about it too
I am. Thank you for noticing.
It’s batshit crazy the people in charge are more worried about a fucking APP than people going hungry.
Do you not think it’s insane that a majority of the house voted for something so stupid, but they can’t even agree on wether or not a child should have to pay to eat at a building they are mandated to be at by said government…?
I suggest you reread my original comment. I added a TLDR for people like you who somehow lost the plot of the comment.
Meh
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Ah yes. The classic let me try to frame this in a stupid fucking way to try and sound like I have an argument. How original.
Nice try, but asking someone if they are insane because their views are so outlandish as to have the thought that banning a fucking APP is more important than any of the three reasons I put on my comment.
So, do you have any actual thoughts on the above matters? If not, kindly fuck off and have a great day.
Didn’t even read it.
Great!
So fuck off, and have a great day.
Ehhh I don’t know about that. I’ve seen plenty of posts dunking on China for being stupid, and they’re quite popular.
And to just further point out, because it seems like you ignored the first three sentences of my post, you’re fine with our government banding together for this singular app (lmfao) but NOT banding together to actually help the common people? What???
You don’t think their priority should be the former, and THEN we can worry about this stupid fucking foreign app?
You ARE insane!