• brain_in_a_box@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    You have to remember though, this “genocide is anything when our enemies do bad things” concept of genocide is limited to Western ultra-nationalists like yourself. Obviously someone like the pope isn’t going to see it in those terms.

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        8 months ago

        Unless you also consider the Iraq war/ Afghanistan war to be genocides, then yes, that basically is the definition you use; you certainly don’t use the actual definition.

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          8 months ago

          Unless you also consider the Iraq war/ Afghanistan war to be genocides

          I mean… Lets be real here. They started the “war” on a false pretense and then killed a fuck ton of civilians.

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        8 months ago

        Lmao well you sure don’t use the actual definition of genocide

        [T]he ICJ ruled on Friday that it will not address whether Russia violated the 1948 Genocide Convention by using what Ukraine says were trumped-up genocide charges as a pretext for the war, even if the invasion may have violated international law broadly.

        Instead, the case will proceed to assess whether Ukraine committed genocide in the eastern parts of the country, as Russia claims – a matter where judges ruled that they have jurisdiction.

        https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/2/icj-rules-that-it-will-hear-part-of-ukraine-russia-genocide-case

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          Holy shit… you are completly spinning it around. Insane…

          For context: the ICJ said they aren’t allowed to rule about Russia commiting a genocide. But Ukraine has asked the court to check if Ukraine did commit a genocide in eastern Ukraine, like Russia claimed. Its Ukraine asking for this investigation.

          '“In the present case, even if the Russian Federation had, in bad faith, alleged that Ukraine committed genocide and taken certain measures against it under such a pretext, which the respondent [Ukraine] contends, this would not in itself constitute a violation of obligations” under the genocide convention, the ICJ said in the ruling read out by its president, Joan Donoghue on Friday.

          The ICJ, known as the World Court, said it did not have jurisdiction to rule on whether Russia’s invasion violated the Genocide Convention, or on whether Moscow’s recognition of Donetsk and Luhansk, two breakaway republics in eastern Ukraine, amounted to a breach of the convention.

          But the judges said they would allow Ukraine’s request for the court to rule that there was no “credible evidence that Ukraine is committing genocide in violation of the Genocide Convention” in eastern Ukraine.’