Florida’s public universities will now permit the Classic Learning Test in admissions, offering a conservative-backed alternative to the SAT and ACT. Florida is now the first state university system in the country to allow for the Classic Learning Test (CLT), which has gained recent popularity among the state’s Christian and charter schools.
The classical education model — not to be confused with “classics” or “classical humanities” — focuses on a return to “core values” and the “centrality of the Western tradition.” The Florida state university system’s board of governors on Friday approved the test for use in undergraduate admissions.
The national university system should de-accredidate any university that uses this test.
That’s done regionally, unfortunately, and I expect that whichever one accredits schools in the South is going to quickly be taken over by conservative jackasses if it hasn’t been already.
(OTOH, employers and graduate programs are free to assign whatever level of credibility they wish to any given university’s diploma)
Yeah, like a FL under grad seeking a Master’s in New England? GTFO
That’s what I’ve been wondering, can’t other states essentially ‘lock in’ participants of schools abusing the system? If you want to go to god school, you can only use that education in god land with the fairy folk, the rest of us on Earth can simply deny the legitimacy of those credentials in real education settings, forcing real changes; or at least keeping the crazy at arms length.
That’s how accrediitadtion is supposed to work. We shall see, I guess.
That is incorrect. Universities are a collection of colleges and each college is accreted individually by a national accreditation board. So in north America colleges of engineering are accredited by ABET.
While I was getting my ABET accredited engineering degree my university was launching a new college of medicine. They were new so unaccredited and had to do a ton of work to get the program accredited.
One of the best ways to avoid scam schools is to check if the degree is accreted by the respective organization for the field.
Is it really? I’m only familiar with ABET, which is national, but only for engineering and technology. I figured other subjects would have similar accreditation boards. Surely some other fields like medical and law do?
The schools institutional accreditation is different from program accreditation.
I don’t live in the US. Due to historical/religious reasons, the government here doesn’t do standardised testing in schools and gives schools quite a lot of freedom. Graduate from the worst school and you can still go to university (with some exceptions for stuff like med, but I digress).
What my university did, is simply schedule a really horrible statistics course on the monday morning, first year, first semester, course book thicker than the bible. Same thing for most courses. You’re studying German? Enjoy learning advanced grammar at 8AM. You’re studying history? Roman history with a side of Latin at 8AM. The overfull auditorium emptied within weeks as people dropped out.
Maybe universities in Florida should do something similar. Rather than refusing students, have them quit. Certainly a financially disastrous way to learn the limits of the power of prayer and the relevance of the bible to statistics, but the Lord works in mysterious ways.
And as any fitness business will testify after the month of january, it’s an excellent business model having the majority who drop out subsidise those who don’t. Really allows you to improve the level of service you can offer those who don’t quit.
I don’t understand how this works.
Are they funneling people from the worst schools into these weed-out classes? Because that doesn’t sound fair at all.
No. Everyone gets a weed-out class.
It functions as a defacto entrance exam. Like a navy SEALs bootcamp where everyone’s allowed to enter, but those dumb or deluded enough to think they can make it, run away screaming once they finally realise they don’t have what it takes.
Certainly better than having the weed-out classes later on in your studies, especially when you’re writing your (graduate?)master’s thesis/research.
Oh okay. I think when I was learning Spanish I was taught about some international universities that had extremely difficult entry exams as another to weed out a ton of applicants. The cost of attending was relatively low.
I thought that was a good model, too.