Looks like Indiana is getting happy hour back.
Article says senators tried to kill carry out drink options.
Indiana allowed carry out drinks during COVID to help businesses during lockdown.
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Did you experience, or come across data that supports the claim that carry out will lead to increasing drunk driving?
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How do you feel about carry out?
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How do you feel about happy hour offerings and encouragement of more or just cheaper alcohol consumption?
I was hoping this was about eliminating the time change between standard and daylight savings.
Dude, I know.
Disclaimers: 1: I’m not from Indiana, I live one state down. 2: I don’t have stats on hand, this is pretty much entirely anecdotal.
Banning carryout sales from restaurants is silly and ineffective. If someone wants single serve alcohol there are plenty of opportunities for it with or without restaurant carryout. I worked in a drive thru package sales store for a couple of years and sold plenty of single serve bottles of beer, premixed drinks, and liquor. We kept a nice selection of all of those in the big cooler so that we could sell it cold. Gas stations do the same thing with a smaller selection. All banning restaurant carryout drinks does is make it mildly more inconvenient and cost restaurants some revenue.
Restaurant drinks are expensive. Happy hour makes them a bit cheaper but still significantly more expensive than packaged sales. Happy hour may contribute to the problem for social alcoholics but it’s far from the cheapest or most dangerous form of social drinking. Restaurant drinking has a safety net because restaurants that serve alcohol have a legal responsibility to limit the amount that their patrons consume and police regularly sit outside looking for drunk drivers. Focusing on happy hour at the legislative level is picking the low hanging fruit and isn’t going to achieve much more than hurting restaurants.
Yeah, I don’t really want to believe it amounts to much of a difference. I feel like there’s way more responsible people than not. Those who are offenders seem to do so anyway.
Imported a long LLM response. It seems to think there was an increase during the last allowance, but I am more inclined to believe this was genuinely related to the pandemic. Maybe this time, we can get cleaner statistics and see how things go for a couple years.
Edit, I like to think I am one of those responsible ones. We walk down a pedestrian trail to the food area,.and it would be nice to take a drink to go while walking back.
I also take drinks in my car from the house, I just don’t drink them until I get somewhere. And not drinking anytime soon, duh. 😀
I’m glad this is the vital issue that our legislature is working on right now.
Meanwhile, we have a major teacher shortage because in most of Indiana, they’re paid less than $60,000 a year.
Indiana public schools are a huge mess. My daughter had a substitute teacher for all of fifth grade. Her previous experience was running a theater company that put on plays for children in Orange County, CA. She was terrible. She punished my daughter for refusing to say the pledge of allegiance (I raised holy hell about that since it is her legal right to not say it) and I found out from my daughter that summer that she was teaching the kids about Trump’s big election lie as if Trump was right.
She left at the end of the year to “teach” at a private Christian school.
But hey, people will be able to get drunk cheaper!
People can get drunk cheaper
We’ll all need to with our lack of good education.
I talk to teachers from Hamilton county and Hendricks county. They say everything’s fucked.
From the lesson plans that only teach istep or what ever it’s called now.
They also say the kids can hit them and they can’t do shit about it. Plus parents coming in screaming at them.
Neither one I’m referring to would be a trumper, let alone teach something like that.
I don’t know what school needs yet. Our high school board meetings had to go online only because people were in there about to start fights.
Even if teachers aren’t something the legislature should focus on (and I would argue that they are), this should be way far down the priorities list. It just shows how little they’re interested in governing.
But hey, the restaurant and bar lobby is apparently getting it’s money’s worth.
restaurant and bar lobby
I am betting this is pretty accurate.
I imagine, without reading anything yet, that downtown businesses like restaurants and bars are a pretty decent tax revenue for the city. What else gives them revenue other than income tax, property tax?
I wonder if they’ve talked about anticipated tax increases due to that.
I feel like this is evidenced in the state’s forced three days in office policy. The state gov is spending millions leasing buildings downtown, while downtown businesses are whining about reduced patrons. I understand since they are getting killed by leasing rates.
Just seems like these are measures to support the owners of the city. I guess income means more budget, which could mean better roads and hopefully education.
I like the side effect of getting to carry out drinks.
