• Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world
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    Steps to building a cool program (the really cool way)

    1. Clone the GitHub repository
    2. Open command prompt
    3. Run the build command
    4. It fails because the repository owner uses a different c++ compiler and it only works with that one
    5. It fails again, realize you installed visual studio wrong somehow so spend an hour trying to get the visual studio installer to find and uninstall it before deleting the installation directory entirely and installing the required version again
    6. It still fails, the project looks for version “” of protobuf but you have “3.1.10.1” so you reconfigure it to look for a real version of protobuf
    7. It fails again, some tool that isn’t in the readme is required to build it
    8. It fails again, it’s not actually compatible with windows yet
    9. Give up and wait for pre built binaries

    Edit: did the other guy that responded block me? I got a notification about it but can’t load the comment

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    Creates something free to use and ask for nothing in return

    People complain because they have to chmod +x a Shell file

    A tale as old as the internet.

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    I agree that github is for developers or people who at the very least don’t mind learning a bit of development and getting their hands dirty. The poster demanding an exe is quite entitled - and also from what I understand the repo he is referring to is a python repo, so there normally wouldn’t be an exe, it’d just be run via a python command.

    There’s a bigger problem here, which is that technical skill in newer generations is also decreasing - as someone on reddit had once said “I’m a millennial and I’m doing tech support for my parents as well as my children”. A generation raised on tablets and phones have gotten the false impression of being tech savy, when their actual technical skill is using end products.

    Expecting every github repo to provide you with something you just click-and-run is overlooking the complexities and reality of how code is. By it self that isn’t a problem, but the entitlement it takes to publicly and arrogantly post that on a public forum is astounding and counter-productive to people who work on those small repos.

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      Nobody has any idea how old this poster is, it could be an old ass boomer as easily as it could be a zoomer and we’re just going on making statements about the technical abilities of new generations without any actual evidence other than a single person that can’t do something for themselves? There are many, many people from my graduating class who would be as helpless as this person and I’m fucking 30.

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        The same thing happened in the previous generation too. Some boomer would start raging about how these millennials don’t know how to fix cars or install toilets or whatever anymore based on one cherry picked example and the other 95% of boomers that have been paying a mechanic or a plumber this whole time and don’t know how to do shit would just nod along.

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          Yes, but knowing how to install a toilet the difficult way (instead of hiring a plumber) was replaced by knowing how to install a program the difficult way (via a command line instead of an installer).

          Now, Zoomers aren’t stupid or tech illiterate, I have a Zoomer friend and she’s more tech literate than I am. The issue is that installing a program the hard way has been replaced with minimizing your carbon and digital footprints. That’s not the skill of a super predator, its the skill of prey. We’ve been reduced to prey for the shareholders of corporations.

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      Is this the power of millennials? Being relatively competent at technology?

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      I would argue that “development” is a superset of “pc operation” which includes things like opening a terminal, issuing commands, installing things, and occasionally light scripting and programming.

      At some point these things should be middle school literacy, but maybe not, I’m probably biased.

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      There are people whose entire understanding and knowledge of the internet exists entirely inside the Facebook app

      Buy phone Install Facebook The end.

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    STUPID FUCKING SMELLY NERDS

    I can kinda vibe with that. Worst I’ve ever seen was installation instructions posted in a Discord server.

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      Jokes on you all the good software you’ve never heard of has obscure and hard to find instructions for a reason.

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        They also have crazy long config files. All but like two lines in the file will be the same for everyone.

        Except the program also is ignoring half the config file and is instead using hardcoded values.

        Oh and there are six different config files all in different directories. Why? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      i quit my CS degree 2 years in because these sorts of people are the absolute worst at empathizing with a problem and giving a clear and fair answer. the attitude is usually that if you’re asking at all, you didn’t try hard enough to figure it out yourself. how dare you make me do my job

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        It’s an open source developer’s job to teach you how to run a script?

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        If you give normies a solution they will bother you all the time. If you teach normies how to nerd they will leave you the fuck alone.

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          No they won’t. They’ll remember nothing other that the fact you know what they don’t, and bother you about everything.

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        how dare you make me do my job

        Ah yes, the open source dev “job” with it’s very lucrative paycheck of $0 lmfao

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        I understand where your coming from but this example is awful because it’s literally git clone, pip install and you’re good to go.

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    GitHub is easy

    1. read the readme for any prerequisites

    2. follow the installation instructions

    3. forget you have the program on your computer

    4. find another neat GitHub program

    5. goto step 1

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    There’s a little trick my parents passed down to me whenever I asked them what a word meant or how to do something when I was a kid, “look it up yourself”. Look up the word in the dictionary, learn how to learn how to do things, and then when you get stuck ask for help graciously. Self reliance isn’t something that just happens, it takes effort and often failure.

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      It’s a great learning technique. My family and girlfriend always say I’m so smart cause I know a lot. I don’t think I’m that smart I just always take that extra step to Google something if I have any questions. Doesn’t matter how small or unimportant it may seem, you never know what sort of rabbit hole you’ll fall down and how much you’ll learn because of it.

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    I’m from the 90s and early 2000s Windows days when most of my time was spent figuring things out and getting things to run

    STILL don’t understand what I’m supposed to do with the stuff on GitHub lmao 😂

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      Usually just go to the “releases” section in the right, click the latest release, and download the built executable for your system from there.

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      It’s code, git clone then build. If there is a standard makefile it’s super easy. If it’s some modern age hispter trash build system you’re in for some pain.

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        Unless the build step is going to do something super custom I shouldn’t be required to build it myself.

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          “Build a Docker image.” Not “build the application”.

          Or, you know, don’t use the free thing.

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          You know, with so many frameworks with the weirdest names, I honestly don’t know if people are just joking or not…
          “Yeah! just use turtle and chubby” “Oh! I prefer tuktuk and lollipop”
          Funny bit: I totally made those up, then went to GitHub, and found out there are real projects called like that. Lol!

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      Use the code to build a time machine, go back to the 1960s and learn to program using only text… /s

      Now, seriously: normally, if it’s an app, look for the “Releses” on the right. If there’s a binary (compiled app) to download, it will be there. If the developers are cool, they’ll include a download link directly on the Read Me file you see when you arrive at the repository.

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      It could be used for cyberstalking, but it’s not expressly built for that use case I think. All it does is spit out sites that have a matching user name on file. It’s actually quite useful for periodic social media / account cleanup to check for account you created for one reason or another and no longer need / have grown dormant.

      In that sense it’s similar to something like Mine.

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      I mean I used it to see what shit I signed up with, especially if you’ve had your email for a few years. I used the website not the app

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    That last line isn’t too far off. The “script kiddies” are the ones sideloading malware into their Apple devices thinking they’re downloading something like “see if that hot chick looked at your Facebook profile” apps.

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    Easy!

    For i in *.py do; mv $i basename ($i).exe ; done

    Or something…

    I haven’t written any shell in ages.