I would love to see Putin try to lift a sword against Zelensky
Surely these are not real people.
When the Washington DC based PR group intern suggested that he wear olive fatigues to make him seem like a warrior, they laughed at the intern. We really should have just been laughing at the libs because dumb trite shit like this works on them.
to make him seem like a warrior
Remember when Putin had that shirtless photoop and the entire goddamn world spared no joke about this?
I remember that very distinctly.
And now we’re stuck with shitlibs fantasising about him beating a septuagenarian in a sword fight.
You scroll down to the first paragraph of the article and you know that the peace plan is a total joke. Even if someone is in the “Russia bad” simplistic worldview I don’t see how anyone can think that they will accept a peace plan where they would give back the disputed regions. Think for two seconds ffs they fucking started a war over this why would they give up
When you add the point about “prosecuting Russian warcrimes” it become clear that this is in fact unconditional surrender being demanded from Russia.
Also lemmy libs are such an obvious bunch, see how those “leftists” are suddenly using stonks newspeak to say 5% surplus of housing in China is a bad thing.
Edit: I posted a single post on lemmy and someone from there just downvoted every single comment on my profile in the last 4 days. probably some .world
mann since they didn’t downvoted posts on hexbear. Stay classy always classy.
This reads like a demand for Russia’s unconditional surrender, rather than any serious peace negotiation. Imagine blowing billions in aid and materiel and thousands upon tthousands of lifes lost, and somehow thinking you can demand MORE than what you had at the start of the conflict.
At this point in time, the likelihood of Russia accepting any accord seems low to me. They know now that any agreement with NATO isn’t worth the paper it is written on and would simply be used as a cease fire to allow them the time to rearm Ukraine. I can’t imagine how you get the trust back that any agreement would be binding. .
At the very least, Ukraine needs to be making a concession of neutrality to even be considered.
This reads like a demand for Russia’s unconditional surrender, rather than any serious peace negotiation
That’s what every single of those “Ukrainian peace proposals” have been
Imagine blowing billions in aid and materiel and thousands upon tthousands of lifes lost, and somehow thinking you can demand MORE than what you had at the start of the conflict.
Cocaine energy
But we can for sure believe Russia
A memorandum, so not a binding treaty, between independent states. Too bad Ukraine has not been so since 2014.
Meanwhile NATO broke the promise not to expand beyond the Oder-Neisse-Line, Minsk 1, Minsk 2 and the Grain Deal.
show us the treaty please
agreements
Also it stipulated that Ukraine must remain neutral and is not allowed to join any military blocs. They broke that when they became a de facto member of NATO and a US vassal.
thanks for proving taht you cannot trust Russia’s word
Seems like you can not read, typical cracker syndrome.
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Libs wandering in here and dropping a wikipedia link like it is the be all and end all of any discussion will never get old
I had someone do that to me on reddit but it was the wiki page for “Human rights in China” lmao
prohibited the Russian Federation … from threatening or using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, … "except in self-defence or …”
and ? Who start the war ? Ukraine NEVER threatened russia
Contrary to what you may believe, history did not actually start in february 2022
You talk about the invasion of crimea by russia or the invasion of dombass by also russia ?
the invasion of dombass by also russia ?
I think this post just suffered an invasion by a dombass.
😂😂😂
I can disprove this fact with one simple link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moron_(psychology)
This ultimately confirms you are a moron, fuck off.
:)
I dont remember who made the post about quipping"Heh, I can do this all day" as blood pours from your mouth and ears, but this is the most pointedly I’ve ever seen that attitude. At least a hundred thousand Ukranians are dead, Steiner’s counteroffensive has been reduced to a fine slurry, the military has started kidnapping people off the streets, but the most mimosa-sipping people on the Earth are fully convinced that Gay Putler’s Orc Army will collapse any day now.
hasnt russia been gearing up their production enough that they basically outproduce all nato countries right now?
Allegedly, yes. But then, allegedly we’re also buying shells from DPRK. From what little I know about the situation in the factories that work for MoD (personal anecdotes), they’re trying to crank up production, but it is difficult due to staff shortages. Specifically, highly qualified types required for a lot of engineering in question
we’re also buying shells from DPRK
I could even believe that tbh, you can never have enough shells and DPRK have huge stockpiles of exact same shells Russian artillery use, so selling some older ones to be used would benefit both sides. It does not automatically mean Russia is unable to replenish their stock, but would give them wider safety margin.
Warning: you WILL suffer brain damage from the liberal brainworms.
The hubble telescope hasn’t traveled the distance between what libs believe and reality.
Hubble stays in orbit, doesn’t it? Wouldn’t Voyager be a better fit?
My bad, I actually confused Hubble and voyager somehow. Thanks for the correction.
It “stays” in orbit, yes, but to do so, it has to move at around 27,000 kph in orbit. The comment said “distance”, not “displacement”, so it’s still a lot.
[No, I’m not doing the math.]
I want this quote on a shirt
Just for some context, here are Zelensky’s 10 points,
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-is-zelenskiys-10-point-peace-plan-2022-12-28/
I’m surprised he didn’t ask for a unicorn after reading points 5 and 6. And after reading point 7, the unicorn would have to give out free hand jobs, too.
- Restoring Ukraine’s territorial integrity and Russia reaffirming it according the U.N. Charter, which Zelenskiy said is “not up to negotiations”.
- Withdrawal of Russian troops and cessation of hostilities, restoration of Ukraine’s state borders with Russia.
- Justice, including the establishment of a special tribunal to prosecute Russian war crimes.
After all that violence and non-observance of the Minsk agreements from 2014, from the Trade House fire in Odessa, and the offensive on Donbass, the Uk gov’t thinks to itself opportune to send this, as a 10 point agreement.
Obviously, they should come to a compromise, sooner or later. It shan’t be unconditional on the one party’s behalf, whether it be Russia, Ukraine, or NATO in this case…
- .World
some hilarious quotes from that thread:
I wouldn’t want to be there right now on either side. But basically the Ukrainians are winning because their artillery is better. Once Ukraine moves their artillery within range of the highway along the Sea of Azov, the troops protecting Crimea will have their supplies threatened. This is the general plan and they’re getting closer.
Russia is rapidly becoming a weak vassal state of China because of Ukraine. If that’s not leverage, I don’t know what is…the war is very stupid for Putin to continue.
Dunning-Kruger syndrome in action there.
It fascinates me, because they must’ve heard somewhere that Russia has very effective artillery, but they are the bad guys, which means the good guys must have better artillery.
And of course they do the classic armchair general tactic of assuming “the enemy” won’t change their tactics or strategy to match changing battlefield conditions.
A lot of this is explained by racism. They see Russians as being stupid and inferior and therefore it’s not conceivable that the west could get outplayed by these orcs.
“prevention of ecocide” seems to not be an issue to them when it comes to western-supplied depleted uranium munitions
