While streaming, the rapper performed a Nazi salute and said: ‘Heil Hitler’

While streaming, the rapper performed a Nazi salute and said: ‘Heil Hitler’

  • Charlxmagne@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    21 days ago

    As much as I hate Bezos, ik he’s not as brave as Musk to be pissing his money down the drain like that. He ain’t turned twitch into a state propaganda machine unlike Elon. If he did that on twatter musk wouldve done fuckall.

    • SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      21 days ago

      I mean Bezos has pretty much turned the Washington Post into his own sock puppet. People just aren’t as up in arms about it because he’s not behaving like an outright Nazi.

  • DaddleDew@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    23 days ago

    I don’t understand how there can be black people in favor of Hitler. How do they rationalize praising someone who would have genocided them?

    • Midnight Wolf@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      23 days ago

      “I’m different, he wants to clean the dirty ones”

      “why am I being loaded into a train I’M DIFFERENT”

            • CileTheSane@lemmy.caEnglish
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              21 days ago

              A couple things stand out to be from that response:

              1. the original post doesn’t mention Republicans at all. It’s like someone making a post against dictatorships and getting an essay and how “these anti-Trump posts are unhelpful.”
                If something so cartoonishly stupid or evil is so clearly about a given group or person, that’s an issue.

              2. the reply literally says “they don’t want leopards eating faces, they just refuse to listen to people trying to stop leopards from eating faces” which for all practical purposes is the same thing. “We literally tried to stop this exact thing from happening that is now happening to you, and you refused to listen and made fun of us” is a fair criticism to make.

              • parody@lemmings.worldEnglish
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                21 days ago

                Thank you!

                One question/note:

                you refused to listen

                I have this view of some supporters who’ll logon to an ad-ridden Android phone to open Facebook while Fox News is on cable TV. They were still on the oil rig when the debates were live but they caught an AM radio kook give his summary on their way home.

                They listened to perfectly as I preached to the choir. I failed to reach them. The Democrats failed to reach and connect with them.

                FUCK

          • Alk@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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            23 days ago

            Yeah, good idea, we can even make long lines of them in a well-organized convoy. Maybe the ones in front and back can control the ones in the middle.

            Then to make sure they stay in formation, we can physically link them together, but with a bit of slack to turn and such.

            In fact, we could even make special roads for these convoys so they get maximum fuel efficiency while also preventing them from accidentally drifting off of it. These roads would be exclusively used by these tesla convoys.

            When these roads have to intersect with normal ones, we will give the convoys right of way, with some sort of movable barrier blocking the other cars from crossing.

            Yeah, this idea is shaping up. Imagine all the people and cargo we could move with this hyper-efficient system.

            • azimir@lemmy.mlEnglish
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              23 days ago

              You know, if we made individual cars larger so they could hold more people or cargo, this idea could get really efficient!

              • I Cast Fist@programming.devEnglish
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                22 days ago

                Larger… You know, large cars really should have a semi standardized format, you know, so you always know what to look out for. Like containers! Imagine that, a container on wheels, it has so much space for people and cargo!

            • dai@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              23 days ago

              Can we have levers which toggle which direction the group of vehicles travel on? We could then rest people on different paths and have their loved ones make life altering decisions by choosing to pull or push the lever.

    • kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      22 days ago

      History lessons in the US focus on the Jewish victims of the Holocaust to the exclusion of all others. Plenty of people don’t know that gay, trans, leftist, or non-white people were genocided.

      • Tja@programming.devEnglish
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        22 days ago

        Even white people. Slavs for instance. Anyone considered crippled. Political enemies.

        • meowMix2525@lemm.eeEnglish
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          22 days ago

          Slavs weren’t really considered white back then. “White” as a social construct goes far beyond skin color.

          • Tja@programming.devEnglish
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            22 days ago

            “white” is a US idea. Like Irish not being “white”. Third Reich cared about Aryans, similar but different rules.

      • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        22 days ago

        Yeah, but isn’t he Christian? I think “Jesus Walks” was one of his songs. Jesus was absolutely Jewish and Christianity was a sect of Judaism for decades, maybe even hundreds of years. I’ll never understand hating the people that founded your religion.

        • Bilb!@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          21 days ago

          If you’re a Christian, you believe that Jesus was the Messiah and that modern Jews deny that. It’s not really a contradiction.

          • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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            21 days ago

            Again, it was a sect of Judaism for decades for sure, probably centuries. It doesn’t matter what you believe.

            • Bilb!@lemmy.mlEnglish
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              21 days ago

              It’s not controversial that today’s Christianity is descended from people who saw themselves as Christian Jews, Jews who followed who they believed was the Messiah. I’m just saying that there is no inherent contradiction in following Jesus and hating the Jews who did not believe that Jesus was the Messiah. Jesus being a Jew himself doesn’t really matter, since in this situation he’s kind of a special case.

              • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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                21 days ago

                It’s not controversial that today’s Christianity is descended from people who saw themselves as Christian Jews, Jews who followed who they believed was the Messiah.

                Yes, they are both Jewish, no matter what word you put in front of them. Both Jews.

      • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        22 days ago

        They were the primary target and most Jews died in the Holocaust. That’s being said I think people of color who are Nazis tend play mental gymnastics to ignore the racism. I think it is the younger crowd who wasn’t hunted by hate groups.

        The real thing to note is that Nazi Germany condemned large groups of people to die. When society is ok with singling out a group of people anything can happen.

    • minnow@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      23 days ago

      Basically, cognitive dissonance. They simply refuse to believe the truth, and make up their own fantasies in which everything is backwards from reality. It makes them feel like they have some power over their life, and/or that they’re special.

      99% of the time people like this are just deeply freaked out at the idea of a cold uncaring universe with nobody in control.

    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      23 days ago

      In the case of Kanye… fell astoundingly far down the antisemitic conspiracy rabbit hole.

      Before he went turbo-mega-ultra Hitler fanbo1 on Alex Jones… he was saying a lot of shit about how the entire entertainment industry was run by a cabal of Jews who secretly fucked over himself and other black artists in particular.

      … He completely lost his mind in this process and has arguably been having the world’s longest sustained, continuous, psychotic break (I think he’s been far more obviously just unhinged bonkers for longer than Elon?).

      He legitimately hated and hates Jews so much that the actual Hitler stuff came afterward.

      How does he rationalize that Hitler would absolutely have killed every Black or African descended person he could, that he switched from being inspired by American rascism to calling the US a ‘mongrelized’ people, because of American society’s multiracial makeup, interracial marriage etc?

      Easy: He’s completely insane and legitimately should be in a room with padded walls.

      Logic? Reason?

      404 error.

      …

      Have you ever tried to convince an unmedicated, manic schizophrenic that… the things they are saying just fundamentally do not make sense, at a basic grammatical level, that their mind invents things that did not happen?

      Yeah, doesn’t go so well.

      • Willy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        22 days ago

        Have you ever tried to convince an unmedicated, manic schizophrenic that… the things they are saying just fundamentally do not make sense, at a basic grammatical level, that their mind invents things that did not happen?

        I haven’t. How’s it go?

        • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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          22 days ago

          Not well. As RedditRefugee notes…

          They do indeed usually incorperate you into their personalized, uber conspirstorial worldview.

          If you have ever heard the phrase ‘Targeted Individual’ or ‘Gangstalking/Gangstalkers’… these are phrases commonly used by schizophrenics in online communities… who, having broadly similar underlying thought processes and lived experiences, will and do gather on the internet and discuss their … paranoid/persecutory delusions… and they do seem to have largely agreed on those phrases to describe their individualized, specific experiences.

          I believe at one point, reddit had a fairly large r/TargetedIndividuals or r/TIs subreddit, something like that… not sure if it still exists or is active.

          • andros_rex@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            22 days ago

            The “targeted individual” stuff is sad. There’s lots of tiny YouTube and TikTok accounts where people plead to their imaginary tormentors to stop, or angrily rant about how they’re ultimately going to win.

            I posted on the TI subreddit a few times trying to encourage people to reach out for help/take their medicine, but yeah - you just become part of the conspiracy, or you simply don’t get it.

            • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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              22 days ago

              So… yeah.

              I just wanna say… they’re not ‘imaginary’ tormentors, in the sense of someone playing make believe, who can just … not do that.

              They cannot turn off the voices in their heads.

              They cannot control the fact that they have vivid visual, audio, tactile, olfactory etc hallucinations that are indistinguishable from actual reality, that their memories of past events can basically just have things that did not actually happen… formed or inserted as a ‘core memory’, or things that did actually happen… wildly warped or just removed.

              So… what do you do, show them a video of what happened, with them in it?

              Nope, thats fake, thats not them, that is their doppleganger, that is their evil clone.

              Nobody really knows how to ‘fix’ this, or if its even possible.

              Antipsychotics generally just make them more docile and less prone to aggressive outbursts, but they also have massive sideeffects… they often do not actually stop the actual ‘unreal’ experiences.

              It is nowhere near as simple as ‘stay on your meds and all the hallucinations go away.’

              The result is that… they cannot trust anything… because quite often, the psychiatrists and other medical people they see will basically manipulate and trick them into beleiving the meds … are a cure… insinuating or even directly stating that their meds will solve the problem.

              There is also a lot of other kinds of fraud and abuse going on with many people who treat schizophrenics because… who’s going to believe them?

              …

              I had an ex who … developed into severe schizophrenia.

              Shit sucks man.

              • andros_rex@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                22 days ago

                There is also a lot of other kinds of fraud and abuse going on with many people who treat schizophrenics because… who’s going to believe them?

                Certainly. When I was inpatient I saw them drug a man and lock him in a small closet.

                The state won’t investigate the fact that I was assaulted - they sure as shit won’t ever believe anything that man says.

                I don’t understand why the state of the mental health system is so fucked. and why no one seems to be trying to fix it.

                • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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                  22 days ago

                  … My ex was SA’d by a staff member during one fairly long term stay.

                  Managed to get that guy fired, but not … you know, prosecuted.

                  The state of mental health is fucked because mental health, at its core, foundationally is built off of ‘how do we pathologize and treat people who have trouble being or cannot actually be any kind of an ideal employee.’

                  No one fixes this, or homelessness, because … no one cares, these people have no money or power, they are viewed as drains on society, instead of potentially productive members of society, or even fundamentally as just… human beings with consciousness/souls.

                  It is a structural issue with literally all of society, and the severely mentally ill, and the homeless (which often coincide, what a shocker) are literally the untouchables class.

                  We like to think we are more modern, more enlightened, more decent… no, we are not.

                  We are just better at technological propoganda and treats and distractions.

                  … Maybe there is a world where … now that the veil of this has been shattered by the rise of fascist MAGAs… maybe, down the line, this will lead to some kind of equivalent social/philosophical reexamination of how… we do everything, as there was after WW2 and the Holocaust… maybe that could be our future.

    • archonet@lemy.lolEnglish
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      23 days ago

      some people are breathtakingly stupid and mental illness is complicated, idk what to tell you fam

    • vxx@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      22 days ago

      He got inspired by the Black Hebrew Israelites, a pseudo-religous group that believes african americans are decendents of jews.

      If I recall correctly from his infowars Interview (or somewhere else around that time), he came to the conclusion that since he’s a jew, he gets to decide if hitler was a good guy or not. It didn’t make much sense and I don’t recall why exactly he came to the conclusion that he as a good guy, but I think he said something like “There’s only love, so he cant be a bad guy”.

      It’s possible he thinks black americans are the real jews, that hitler was doing a good thing with killing imposters.

      • miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        22 days ago

        You omitted the part where his girlfriend sucked his balls in public whilst traversing the waters of Venice in a gondola.
        That should be topmost when defining his mental prowess.

        • andros_rex@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          22 days ago

          He all but forced his wife to show up naked to the Grammy’s - there’s video where it looks like she’s trying to argue with him about it.

          Plus that “wives sell pussy for life” line - a big part of this is misogyny. He’s got some extremely disturbed attitudes towards sex and women, and is dangerous.

      • Bezier@suppo.fiEnglish
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        23 days ago

        But usually racists are racist towards some other group of people, not themselves.

  • JasonDJ@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    22 days ago

    2005: “George Bush doesn’t care about black people”

    2025: “Heil Hitler”

  • Wicked Zebra@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    16 days ago

    Can someone quickly explain to me why he is doing this?

    Isn’t he black? Isn’t that against Hitlers fascism anyway?

  • Katana314@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    22 days ago

    I guess I’m glad Twitch took a side on that?

    After Bezos went full nazi on the Washington Post, I have expected the worst of everything Amazon.

    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.caEnglish
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      21 days ago

      Kanye just isn’t subtle enough with his anti-semitism.

      I just checked and Hasan is still on the front page of Twitch. So don’t worry, Amazon is still profiting off of anti-semitism.

    • SirEDCaLot@lemmy.todayEnglish
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      22 days ago

      The sad thing is, I think you are correct, without even joking. I think he literally needs some kind of help.

      I try to keep an open mind always. So a while back he did a Lex Friedman interview, and I listened to it. For anyone not familiar, Lex does long form interviews of an hour or more and gets deep into various subjects.

      I got about halfway through before concluding that there is something seriously wrong with West. Maybe he is just stupid (not as an insult, I mean like he lacks any sort of intelligence) or maybe he has brain damage or maybe he is just delusional. But you listen to the guy talk for more than 5 minutes at a time and you wonder what the hell is wrong with him.

      For example, he spent a lot of time blaming the ‘Jewish media’ for a lot of America’s problems. Lex repeatedly asked him for specifics, challenged him to call out specific members or leaders of said media for specific actions, challenged him to use his platform to identify bad actors. He had few if any specifics and saw no particular benefit in any specific call outs, in his world it’s all a conspiracy and the whole ‘Jewish media’ and everyone part of it is all one and the same.

      Furthermore, he spent a lot of time explaining why we should stop teaching history in schools. Said we should focus on science and technology classes and not waste time reliving the past. Lex tried hard to challenge that, even brought up specific non-partisan examples from history that presented useful lessons for today. It had no effect, West continued to double down on the position that teaching kids history is a waste of time and resources.

      At this point I had wasted about half an hour listening to the guy, and decided he was simply not worth my time to listen any further, because he obviously fundamentally misunderstood how the world works, how human nature works, and had little or no facts or evidence to back up his positions. I concluded that any further ideas from West can probably be safely dismissed without much consideration, because his thought process shows no evidence of rational or scientific thought.

      Honestly the best analogy I can think of is like going to a mental institution and listening to a crazy person. They will talk your head off for an hour about how aliens infected their brain or whatever, and the only thing you will get from it is an hour older.

      • NOT_RICK@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        22 days ago

        His interview on Letterman’s Netflix show was it for me. He kept whipping up these meaningless word salads that may sound profound to some but it just came across as mania to me

      • AlexisFR@jlai.luEnglish
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        21 days ago

        The difference, someone like Mr West gets richer and more famous evertime he talk crazy like that.

        • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
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          21 days ago

          No, he was already rich and famous, before all this (although he was always a bit loopy).

          If anything, all this political and Nazi nonsense has whittled away at his fame and acceptance, and each time he opens his mouth, he loses far more fans than he gains, and the fans he gains are poor quality ones.

          As for the money, he was already a billionaire, which is fairly difficult to lose once you have it. He has lost some of the endorsement deals that made him wealthy in the first place, but those are gone, so he isn’t stacking up cash any longer, just draining it. Its just that with billions to start with, it will take a while for it to get low enough to feel it.

          Bottom line: Every time he pulls a stunt like this, its a net loss for him, not a gain.

  • MrMakabar@slrpnk.netEnglish
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    21 days ago

    The dud writes songs called “Heil Hitler”, “Hitler Ye and Jesus”, “Free Diddy” and so much more. It is insane

  • Treczoks@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    22 days ago

    So some commercial American social media still ban Nazis? How long will they be able to do that?

    • Snowclone@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      21 days ago

      Don’t worry they ban those nasty people who say ‘‘racist’’ at 10x the rate of people spewing hate speech.