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    Watch this end up like the KDE 4 fiasco. “We removed everything you loved, ain’t it great!” Please don’t let me down again, KDE.

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        If you were a fan of KDE 3 and got hit with KDE 4, you would remember how awful that was. [CoC doesn’t prevent that truthful statement] Simply removing features due to a lack of resources is [censored for your unfavorable CoC]. Don’t release until it is equal to or better than your previous release [Constructive advice]. So what if it takes 10 years. Releasing less ready software, as in missing features, is how you got KDE 4 and Wayland. [Another truthful statement.]

        And one more edit: Using a code of conduct to deny the problems with previous releases and honest criticism is, shall we say, [censored again due to your unfavorable CoC]. It’s already been announced features are being cut. So how am I wrong here?

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        Watch this end up like the KDE 4 fiasco. “We removed everything you loved, ain’t it great!” Please don’t let me down again, KDE.

        How was that rude, I didn’t insult anyone. I even said please when asking not to let me down again. If you want to deny KDE 4 was bad, go ahead, but that is an honest criticism (and one shared by many, as I’m sure you are aware), but to call honest feedback rude is disingenuous. I don’t appreciate you changing the context to try to vilify me. Lastly, the CoC is never mentioned on the KDE Community Wiki until “22:08, 12 December 2019‎ Vinzv talk contribs‎ 6,507 bytes +3,285‎ Migrated content from https://manifesto.kde.org over here”, which is long after KDE 4, which is already listed on that same page as “Historical Information” as far back as 2011. So from what I can tell, KDE 4 was probably never covered under the CoC, don’t think it existed yet. So it wouldn’t be protected from honest feedback, if that is what the CoC is being used here to prevent.

        • @PseudoSpock @Bro666 I am just reading this as an outsider, but I can say that if the first message was something like “I hope this time features are going to be preserved. I still remember the transition from KDE 3, where I lost x, y and z” it would have sounded different than “watch this end up like the KDE 4 fiasco”. In this second sentence I assume that your expectations are already set, for a bad release.

          Now I’m genuinely curious: is something important to you being removed from Plasma 6?