I know I’m in the wrong place, but I’ll leave this commrnt anyway.
I just had this argument with my very conservative Christian group chat where one of them rage quit, here’s the long ass comment I made:
"My point is and remains: Jesus said feed the hungry - stop canceling children’s meals
Jesus said welcome refugees
Jesus said heal the sick - healthcare…
All of the GOP policies are opposite what Jesus said.
Thats not me hating christians. Im literally taking what he said to do and asking why a group that wants to be a christian nation is against those things."
See I think this highlights what I think is one of the great ironies of modern religious demographics, the major friction point that drives a lot of folks away from Christianity is the perceived hypocrisy of Christians in their behavior vs what the big J himself said to do.
Had movements like the social gospel and liberation theology been able to hold onto the mainline for longer than they had in our history, I can’t help but imagine that millennials and Zoomers might have just monkey branched instead of leaving altogether, or at least been more likely to.
I might still be Christian if they had any sort of internal consistency. But once I started noticing the cracks in the facade, I realized there were more cracks than facade.
Pretty much everyone is emotional. Some of us sometimes try to think, too.
If you have someone who’s a conservative christian and you come at them with facts like that, they’re going to feel bad. And most people are sad little cowards that will lash out instead of doing the uncomfortable work of figuring out why they feel bad. If they accept what you say as true, then that’s just too much. Better deny it so they can feel comfortable.
Next you tell people that you are suspicious about all the money and gold the Catholic Church has amassed in the name of god as that is also nothing Jesus teaches.
If you want to believe, you have to accept contradictions on all levels. You have to accept stories of absolute fantasy. Believing in wonders. Magic. And a non-visible all-mighty creature that can not be questioned.
Believing means bending your mind and bowing to the inconsistencies.
Looks like you poked your head too much up and over the pew. You either bow down again to the rules others added to the game the last 2000 years or you come up with your own idea of believing (or not believing). But others will not like your game. They want to play it unconfronted by your questions.
I can’t help but be confused what they think they’re going to accomplish with these ads, because the kind of person who actually turns their head at the messages of tolerance they were trying to hammer in the ads is also the kind of person who’s going to research the org, see who they’re linked to, and immediately close the entire browser in disgust as if they just found the one weird roommate’s search history, their pornhub search history.
Like, they’re talking to the generation who sees the feet washing ad and thinks of Mr. Rogers, who these people slandered on fox news for daring to teach children that they’re worthy of well treatment just for being a living human being.
I was thinking the same thing. Is there going to be a single rational individual this wins over? Other than the type that already believes but maybe doesnt “practice” or go to church anymore. The demographic they are trying to reach with this isn’t the one they targeted. Thus, perhaps this is the target. Get those already brainwashed to believe back into the fold. And therefore, the maga right wing stuff. I would think that would be a stretch but I went to a mega church begrudgingly once just a year or two ago with my clueless about my atheism father after he guilted me and sorta blackmailed me in going to what I thought was just a free dinner. They of course had a service and no shit they were making jokes about Biden and Harris about how bad they were during the service. The southern Christian is entirely intertwined entirely with the Republican cult. So Christianity necessarily can and does equal maga ferver.
Nope the target is the same. As with all publicly Christian companies- they’re assertion of being Christian is a disingenuous attempt at marketing.
To get Christians to patronize them- they’re literally exploiting the persecution complex many have; as well as exploiting their faith.
Did fox news really slander Mr. Rogers?
Wow. Slandering Mr Rogers just seemed like such a ridiculous statement that I assumed the poster above was exaggerating. What a bunch of scumbags.
I suppose I could have googled that myself, but thank you for sharing the link.
I feel like some one should spoof Roger rabbit with a “Who framed Mr Roger’s?!”, set in the neighborhood.
I feel like I saw that porno…
In any case, they know every one knows that the adds were by hobby lobby’s owners.
There’s plenty of well meaning Christian’s who think all the awful stuff we say about them is slander and persecution; and those people also shop near exclusively at hobby lobby.
Or people who see this as proof that the op ya assholes legitimately did give hobby lobby “to god”… and so shop there to support that. Never mind that they still own it, and are still pocketing absurd profits.
It’s purely performative. The veneer of decency serves only to get “decent” Christian’s in their store and spending money.
In short, if one is to foow christ’s scriptural example, they should be horsewhipped.
Do they know Jesus was a Middle Eastern Socialist Jew?
Yeah, that’s why they despise his actual messages
If you gathered everyone that was involved in writing the original old books of the Bible … they would look like hard core religious fanatics from Afghanistan and pretty much have the same mentality.
With a side of David Koresh thrown in.
Jesus was likely one of a couple dozen 2-bit-Jewish mystics cropping up in the region. The Sanhedron were very much trying to stamp that particular wave of heretics out; in large part because many of them were building cults of personality in the same way televangelists grift their followers,
Unpopular opinion, but I disagree. This is exactly the kind of ad that’s necessary. These ads are a sharp condemnation of MAGA Jesus. A reminder that everyone is your neighbor, and that you are called to be like Jesus – humbly washing people’s feet.
It’s a difference of perspective I suppose. I see these as useful in throwing the Bible right back at Bible thumpers, to remind them that they’ve got it all wrong. I’m sure these ads annoyed quite a few conservatives by reminding them just how unchristian they are.
these adds were funded by the the bible thumpers. They’re also Maga extremists.
Some points about Hobby Lobby-
- the Founder and Owner of hobby lobby “gave the company to god”; in a move analogous to the Patagonia’s Owner. Except unlike Patagonia, it’s still owned and controlled by said owner.
- the company has a public pledge to honor go
- They’re constantly fighting in the courts, objecting to paying for health insurance that covers contraceptives or abortions.
- raging antisemites.
- The family that owns it also operates the Museum of the Bible. if that sounds familiar, this was where Speaker Johnson compared himself to Moses.
- Green, along with Museum of the Bible, got into hot water over proslytyzing in public schools (via a book they pushed the school to use as curriculum) in Oklahoma.
- They use their “religious beliefs” as a means of evading their raging homophobia.
- in '17, they were found guilty of smugglin 5,500 biblical artifacts from iraq. (many of which were in fact stolen.)
- the Museum of the Bible admitted to displaying fradulent Dead Sea Scroll fragments… they were later confirmed to be all forgeries.
- they announced they would be returning another 11k+ fragments of artifacts that were also probably stolen from iraq.
- Refused to close during the Pandemic, because they got a Message From God™
- When they got told by some states, specifically, they had to close, they tried to be sneaky about it
- Ran a display in their stores for the '20 election urging customers to Vote Trump
- DoJ seized the Gilgamesh Dream tablet… which, to clarify has nothing to do with the Bible, and was stolen and smuggled in by the Museum of the Bible.
- once took out a full page add in newspapers specifically to argue that only Christians should be allowed to govern the US.
- they also refused to pay sick leave during covid.
- There’s more, but, those are just the few a quick google could remind me of.
Business mixed with politics and religion? What could ever go wrong?
Article is only 3 paragraphs. Can’t really be summarized, worth the read.
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