• Zozano@lemy.lol
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    9 months ago

    What’s your take on the Andrew Tate bullshit?

    Do you think that is in a similar vein as a reactionary fascism?

    Personally, I think it’s a symptom of the new generations being less connected as a result of our social condition fueled by overuse of technology and social media.

    I see the rise of misogyny is how young men are failing to understand that it isn’t just them being isolated, the young women are feeling isolated too. It’s not that feminism has made women too critical of masculine traits, but rather, young men just don’t realise being masculine isn’t going to make you a superstar.

    Then it comes back to social media. The perception about what it takes to be loved and successful.

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      9 months ago

      It’s multifaceted, but similar.

      First, again, people are driven by material conditions more than people and ideas.

      Following this, we can see that the rise in feminism has resulted in a reactionary response from some subsets of young men. Compounding this issue is Capitalism’s continued decline, by which people are further alienated not just from their labor, but from each other. The withering of communal structures and the commoditization and addiction of human contact via social media has additionally pushed young men into struggle.

      Some of these young men find misguided hope that they can still succeed in the system and come out on top, delusionally buying into alpha-male bourgeois mythos, and band together.

      It’s similar to fascism rising in popularity as a response. There’s a thesis, an antithesis, and eventually, a synthesis. That’s the dialectic at work! Although I think people can take the dialectic too far, in an almost religious manner, it can be helpful to analyze current events.

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        9 months ago

        I think even in a communist society, the failed experiment which is social media would have resulted in a lot of isolation.

        Being exposed to a lot of beautiful, charismatic, multi-talented people creates a perception that the one witnessing is not as special.

        Even within tighter local communities, I could see how a teenager could form a perspective of their community being below-average in talent and forming resentment.

        Of course, it’s all speculation, and obviously capitalism plays a role, I’m just not convinced it’s as significant as the role social media plays alone.

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          9 months ago

          Social Media exists in its current, harmful form as a consequence of the Capitalist Mode of Production. Capitalism is still the root.

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            9 months ago

            Sure, but I still think it would be harmful regardless, due to the new technology being in its infancy, and people not really being adapted for healthy use of it.

            I don’t see the older generations having a problem with “communist facebook” but for teens, it’ll always be an issue.

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          9 months ago

          Of course, it’s all speculation, and obviously capitalism plays a role, I’m just not convinced it’s as significant as the role social media plays alone.

          Don’t you think those companies have incentive to push for things that provoke outrage, and thus engagement? Imho endless political debates are not the expression of democratic feelings. They are just the way they keep you on the platform for ads.

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            9 months ago

            I wasn’t considering political bullshit. More about influencers in the teen-sphere.