• Shake747@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 months ago

    You’re saying you feel that your choices are being stuck under a fascist government, or alter the system so the repubs can’t win?

    Essentially creating a one party system in either scenario - which is just full circle to being a non-democratic country. Historically, this usually leads to the concentration of wealth to a small group.

    This is the divisive death spiral I’m referring to. Either way might lead to one party dominating everything, and the downfall of symbolic freedom that the US represents to the world

    I’d take option C - vote in someone different

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      9 months ago

      I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m saying that at the current moment (with the current political system in the US) those are the options.

      Option C is only an option if a significant majority believe that a third party can win which is not what a majority of people believe. It is like a catch 22.

      What I am mainly saying is that things are likely going to change but the way in which that happens is unclear.

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        9 months ago

        Yeah fair points. It’s been entertaining to watch from the outside at the very least, and I’m sorry you have to live through it - sincerely.

        The US sends shockwaves to Canada though, so I might be in your boat soon enough

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      9 months ago

      alter the system so the repubs can’t win

      You’re framing this like democrats want to rig the system against the GOP. The truth is that Dems want to institute democratic reforms that strengthen the voting power of average Americans.

      Will that create a system where Republicans can’t win? Probably, and good riddance. If they want to win, they need to have actually popular policies. That’s how democracy works.

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          9 months ago

          If they want to win, they need to have actually popular policies.

          ☝️ The GOP values & strategy have changed over time. They would probably still exist as a party, but they would need to change their approach. Today’s GOP is not the party of Lincoln.

          Speaking of which, you know that the Republicans didn’t always exist, right? But before them, it wasn’t just One-party rule by Democrats, the Whig party existed. A first-past -the-post voting system structurally incentivises two-party rule.