Indian foreign ministry claims ‘security threats’ after Trudeau’s explosive allegation of state-sponsored killing mean it cannot provide visa services safely
India says it is indefinitely suspending visa services in all categories for all Canadian nationals due to “security threats” to its consulates, amid a furious diplomatic row between the two countries.
Indian foreign ministry spokesperson Arindam Bagchi said they have suspended “all categories” of visas, including e-visas and for Canadian citizens applying from third countries.
And India has also moved to downsize the Canadian diplomatic presence in New Delhi, saying that Canada has more embassy workers in its capital than visa versa and that it wants to restore “parity”.
It comes after Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau said there were “credible allegations” of the Indian state’s involvement in the murder of Sikh separatist leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar in Canada, triggering a furious tit-for-tat row.
So pathetic from India - seeking to punish Canada for the fact that the Indian government murdered a Canadian in Canada, and Canada had the temerity to call them out for it.
What an absurd victim complex Modi has.
Typical conservative snowflake. How dare you say anything about me? Throwing people in prison for criticism is commonplace in India.
Unfortunately many of the Sikh people are being subject to genocide and not just locked up.
It’s sadly not uncommon among Brahmins. “How can these people we literally enslaved for millennia DARE want to convert to a different religion? Why aren’t they more grateful?”
Astonishing insight into the thought process of this poster. I’ve learnt a lot.
Look at your name and ask yourself if anyone in your life takes you seriously. Go play with play dough
SEE YOU SPACE COWBOY
I seriously doubt you’ve learned much.
"Canada and its growing reputation as a safe haven for terrorists, for extremists, and for organised crime. And I think that’s a country that needs to worry about its international reputation”
Never thought I’d read a statement like that from someone who was serious.
Indian with it’s assassins and cult government…
In fairness to Modi, Canada is already well known as a haven to clean dirty money.
For the moron downvoters. I can be a proud Canadian and still admit we have a problem.
Not sure why this is getting downvoted, the Canadian housing market has been the place to park foreign money for years. Is one of the main reasons why Vancouver is so expensive. You can correlate the price of housing in BC to Xi’s crackdowns, Brexit, or MBS taking over in Saudi. Also true for BTC.
Send some goofball nephew from China/India/Russia/etc. to school at Simon Frasier or whatever D-tier local school is in Richmond BC so that the proiperty is occupied, then take a reverse mortgage out against that and buy more property. Funnel money through said nephew to pay off the mortgage, then rent out the other properties. Or create shell companies in BC, have them cut deals with foreign companies, fail to deliver, lose a court case, and then have the court rulings sent to the BC company tax free since settlements aren’t taxed.
Generally true in the GTA, and the big Alberta cities to lesser extents.
Having worked in corporate finance for years, anecdotally it was always explained that with China as an example people would purchase real estate because it was the hardest thing for the CCP to claw back once the money left China. If the CCP wants what you own, they will take it. They can’t easily take back 100 apartments in downtown Surrey.
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What
Likely referring to Chinese money fucking up the housing market
See my edit.
Way to make everybody believe your government did actually murder somebody in Canada, Modi.
I don’t think anybody’s translated the expression “they doth protest too much” into Hindi.
Don’t you people understand how dangerous Canadians are, eh?!
/S obviously
They could bore you to death by apologizing for others’ mistakes!
The Modi govt has surpassed its own stupidity . They’ve officially labeled Canada an international terrorist sanctuary — “a safe haven for terrorists, for extremists, and for organized crime,” in the words of the Ministry of External Affairs spokesperson. I’ve just posted on this zine
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I suspect that’s why this is happening. India - like China and Russia - may view its diaspora as an indirect projection of its own power.
It’s not the same for Indians as it is for China. Indians tend to integrate well with western culture and I haven’t seen them bring their politics with them.
In the tech sector you can run into caste-ism (is that the correct word?), where Indians who are “lower” caste can be looked over when applying to jobs if the one going through resumes or making hiring decisions is Indian themselves and a “higher” or at least “different” caste, and can identify at a glance what caste the applicant is by their surname.
It’s apparently popping up enough that it’s on the radar as a discrimination problem in California, which has a big tech sector and I suppose a large enough population in some areas of Indian immigrants for this to start being a problem.
It surprised me at first that anyone was concerned about it–but then I realized…yeah, you kinda want to nip that one in the bud. Given all the existing classism/racism in the US, we hardly need a new one to throw into the mix. And it’s really dumb/disappointing to me that someone might come here from India hoping to start a new life and obviously have to deal with racism already because that never won’t NOT be a thing–only to ALSO run face first into caste-ism from fellow immigrants who drag that crap over with them. What a crappy catch-22, you know? So it seems to me that it’s good that some folk have awareness that it’s a thing to watch out for.
That’s something I haven’t considered.
How? You think Indians move to other countries to make them more like India? Sure as hell isn’t the case with the ones I know.
I said India not Indians
Uh, so? That doesn’t change my question at all.
Well then no. The answer is no.
eh not so sure. China has explicitly tried very hard to portray the west as racist and crime ridden to ensure that their best and brightest who go to foreign schools come home. They then started setting up secret policing in Canada and the US when those efforts didn’t work well.
India has been doing the same, trying to claw back their own and limit the influence of their citizens abroad. Especially cuz those citizens are often educated and wealthy. Saw something in the US about how Indians are, overall, the wealthiest group since there are relatively few of them compared to other minorities, and they’re overwhelmingly in STEM or other lucrative fields.
The amount of Indians living in Canada is crazy, really. A few years ago during Covid I arrived in Vancouver airport and literally thought that I took a wrong plane somewhere and arrived in India instead.
There were only Indian personnel everywhere until I arrived at the border security. Everyone else is Indian. Then in Vancouver itself, I’d guess that 30% of the people are Indian. It’s crazy enourmous really
If you’re in Toronto and take a bus to to brampton, it’s like crossing over into a different country.
Wow who would have thought, India is winning the North Korea speed run challenge.
Russia already won first place. But man, I was cheering for India for a while but this last year they are having me lose a substantial amount of goodwill towards them even after trying to find excuses. I hope they check themselves before its too late.
Sometime i think Modi studied from the same school where Xi Jinping and putin pass out.
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Modi doesn’t have any college degree even though he claims so but refuses to share college certificate so far.
Ok so basically he’s a Republican
That’s the trick, cap. They always are.
Modi didn’t go to school, he was too busy in boy scouts
Its funny coz I think Modi thinks people are dying to visit India.🤣🤣 its like Taliban thinking Afghanistan is the most developed country in the world.🤣🤣🤣
India is that one country I can’t imagine visiting as a tourist. I know there’s plenty of beauty in the country and people, but I couldn’t imagine enjoying myself as I step over human beings and try to ignore all the crippling poverty and social inequality.
Indian here. You should know the holiness of a place here is proportional to the amounth of filth around it /s. And dont visit Ganges plains. South is fine and so is Himalaya and north east. Avoid the cow belt.
Modi likes to pose macho especially when his followers like it. A bit of like Elon Musk if you ask me. He never said a thing about Chinese trangession in North East where we lost land. But he found soft targets in Canadians.
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Enjoy a sunset paddleboat ride down the Ganges, just nudge the floating corpses out the way.
You joke but a friend went there, and he showed me literal pictures of floating corpses in the ganges
Don’t know if you have ever visited the US, but I was not expecting what we found. Worst was the constant begging. People tapping on the windows of the car when we stopped at intersections, chasing us around shopping centres and along streets, and begging on train stations, expecting “tips” for returning a bag they had stolen out of my hand (sometimes, jetlag didn’t help me be fast enough) or “tips” for giving directions I didn’t want, need, or ask for. They constantly expected money to be handed to them.
It was shocking how the roads were broken, the shops had no electronic payment, the coins were worth practically nothing, the paper money was literally paper scrip and not holographic or durable, and the buildings were rotting apart. People were dying on the footpaths. Crowds of dirty people. Rubbish everywhere. But worst was the begging.
Oddly, Canada isn’t like that. If you ever visited the US, India is similar, but not unexpected the way the US is.
As they should, India is an amazing and very unique country
Why on Earth am I being downvoted. You guys need to leave your basement once in a while
Most westerners would not be able to handle India. While yes its full of rich history and culture, the state of cities would be too much for most first worlders to handle.
Also, I’m definitely spending money and my PTO for what’s going to be quite an unpleasant experience. There are many places that are beautiful and culture rich as well without as much unpleasantness.
I don’t know what PTO is but you can spend it on what you want. I’m not sure what unpleasantness you mean. There’s poverty for sure, especially in big cities. What didn’t you like in India ? if you don’t mind sharing your experience
Perhaps
I went to Goa and Mumbai. So maybe not the densest populated places but still. I’m from Sweden. Sure the population density takes some getting used to but if you allow yourself to do that it’s not like it’s an alien place. Great food.
Yea, you need some time to adjust,… it’s obligatory. But I think roaming the cities is amazing (from the perspective of a european). One just has to agree on dropping some habits and learning new ones. Travelling, basically
Only Indians think that.
I am about as Indian as you are Nigerian
I didn’t downvote, but nothing is “very unique” for the same reason that nobody is “very pregnant”.
Either it is unique or it is not.
I disagree.
“Very” unique indicates being unique in more ways and/or in more severe ways.
Similarly, being “very pregnant” would be at about eight months or perhaps carrying more than one child. In the present of someone that is a month pregnant, it may hardly impact their day to day living, and you can’t tell.
Yes, technically the words are Boolean, but the reality makes sense.
“Very” unique indicates being unique in more ways and/or in more severe ways.
The term you’re looking for is “very unusual”.
Similarly, being “very pregnant”
LOL, ok now say to a pregnant woman, “I don’t think you’re very pregnant”. Please report back to us with her response.
Perhaps you haven’t heard or read those before, but they’re very much valid (😉). The downvotes are overwhelming and can’t possibly -imho- reflect disagreement over my wording. I’m pretty sure it has to do with India, but I don’t know why. Is there a particular anti-India sentiment I didn’t know about ?
Well, there is definitely an anti-assassination sentiment. Probably why Saudi Arabia doesn’t get much love either.
India is fuckin incredible, what makes you think anyone is lining up to visit Canada?
Lol
Students. Higher education in India is incredibly bad. Thousands of Indians pay huge sums to get into Canadian unis.
Higher education in India is incredibly bad.
Imma be level with you homie, the only Indians who leave to Canada for higher education are the ones who did not make it into the top universities in India.
India has some of the highest ranked universities in the world. It’s a country famous for putting out doctors. Yes, there are issues with higher ed, but it’s not as simple as “incredibly bad”. And don’t forget that a large number of foreign students is also a product of just having a large population.
India has some of the highest ranked universities in the world.
Whose capacity is close to nothing for the population. Indian universities fall in two categories: really good ones or absolute shit ones (source: I’m an Indian). There is no middle category. To get into the really good ones, you have to either have an exceptionally good academic performance or have to be extremely rich. Universities outside India fill in the demand of this middle category. Sprinkle in some permanent emigration aspirations and you get a country with a large emigrating student population.
It’s a country famous for putting out doctors.
While it is true that this is the perception of India especially in the west, it is categorically untrue. According to the World Health Organization (2023), India ranks very low in the amount of doctors per 10,000 people relative to developed countries (by more than 300%). If you counter this by saying “this is because all Indian doctors emigrate to the said developed countries”, then that would be incorrect again, as around 10% of Indian physicians emigrate and practice in the west.
And don’t forget that a large number of foreign students is also a product of just having a large population.
I believe you are pinning “a large population” as the causal factor behind a high student emigrant population. Had this really been a causal factor, then we would’ve seen European and American students in Indian Universities proportional to their population (which when combined, makes up around half of India’s population). The fact that we do not observe this phenomenon is evidence enough that “a large population” is not the causal factor behind this. Rather, it is the access to good education which plays a much much larger role.
There are enough incredible countries where you don’t have to worry about perverts and being raped as a woman.
Come to Singapore, we have the Indian culture (among others), and we’re the diametric opposite of India where it comes to safety in all aspects. 😉
Singapore is on my bucket list
Brother at least put some effort into it.
Modi going full-bore with Kremlin tactics and methods emulating his pal, Putin.
He’s destroying indias credibility on the world stage, this is really sad to see.
It’s harmful to Indian citizens and Canadians as well
His cult of cunts is too blind to see that.
And it was so well respected before! No one saw it as the “scammer country”, and certainly there wasn’t a well known pocket of humor on the Internet entirely revolving around India and feces. No, no, they’re universally known around the globe for their amazing
they’re universally known around the globe for their amazing
Their amazing what?! Corndogs? Churros? Eggrolls? You gotta tell us!
Had to read the comments to figure out how in the world CANADA was managing to piss people off.
We don’t like foreign governments conducting assassinations of our citizens eh
Fair enough
So, Modi is a fascist. India has egg on their face.
Is India such a popular destination for Canadians ? I mean who is hurt more in this “he`s done it, so i pay back” game?
Something like 7% of Canada’s population is South Asian. I don’t know what percentage of that has Canadian citizenship and is specifically from India, but I’d guess there are a fair number of people who won’t be able to visit family now. It’s a shitty way to retaliate, but not unsurprising coming from Modi.
Well those who come from India they don’t need visa and second generation of original immigrants might not have such a tight relations on average as they have lived whole life in Canada. Then how many Canadians work in India in comparison to how many Indians work in Canada. I’m just guessing here but somehow I think Indians are hurting their own people. If it’s about tourism , then again who needs tourism more if we count only tourists from these two countries visiting each other.
Interesting. I do passport applications (granted, in the US, so not completely the same), but I see a fair amount of 2nd gen Indians who are going to India. Lots of people going for weddings or young adults visiting grandparents or taking their own babies to meet the extended family. Regardless, it’s super petty.
they hurt their own people in sense not Canadians in general. (Graparents won’t see their grandchildren etc)
I doubt there are many Canadians who go there for leisure, but for work? I bet there’s quite a few of them.
Do you think more Canadians work in India or vice versa? I don’t know but somehow I get feeling Indians like working for higher $$$ in the west then Canadians in the India.
it ain’t the white ones who are going, it’s the 2nd generation (or later) Indians in Canada who may have issues. “with us or against us, pick a side, otherwise you’re not going to visit Grandma”
I’ve followed the headlines on this but I just don’t get it.
India is pissed they were called out? They didn’t consider a cranky Canadian outcome before hand? Or is Canada flinging wild accusations that are unjustified with the information at hand?
These diplomats need to chillax and go back to being diplomatic before legitimate Canadian expats in India and legitimate Indian expats in Canada start to feel the brunt of this.
There is strong evidence that hasn’t been released but leaked sources claim one of the two killers(captured) have ties to Indian Intelligence the other being an Indian diplomat(uncaptured). This means it’s a direct attack on a Canadian on Canadian soil by a foreign agent.
India is pissed because Canada harbored an alleged terrorist. Even though the terrorist in question was freed by the Indian government and was not wanted by Interpol.
The Indian government is currently genociding its Sikh population and calls anyone outspoken about these actions as terrorist.
This action of closing immigration from Canada is to get an equal reaction. India want to stop all of their skilled and intelligent people from leaving to Canada.
The Indian government is currently genociding its Sikh population
Uhhhhhh what?
Rest of your comment is fine but there’s no need for falsehoods like these.
They are arresting, beating and killing sikh separatists and anyone that speaks ill of the government.
That’s called stifling dissent, or repressing civil liberties.
Not a genocide. Words have meanings.
Canada seems to have pretty credible evidence for it. India seems to be doubling down in indignation rather than apologize or admit they did anything wrong.
Deny, shift the blame, try to victimize yourself and blame the actual victim.
It is standard narcissist playbook which is also standard authoritarian playbook.
The documentary “India’s Daughter” enlightened me to the actual India.
Wow damn if we don’t somehow rescue the USA in our elections in 2024 these dictator countries have their eyes on taking over. Kinda obvious with the whole BRICS thing.
