I bought 175 g pack of salami which had 162 g of salami as well.

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    Let me introduce you to tolerance in measuring instruments and measuring errors.

    Edit: Apparently I’m pro evil companies because I just pointed out that scales (and more importantly non-professional scales) have relatively high error tolerances (+ the measurament method error). Thus the measuring of this pasta and the possible interpretations of it have to take into account that.

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      When was the last time OP performed a guage R&R with a traceable calibrated mass standard? 😂

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        “Always” is a really strong word that you should not be using in this context since it’s just not true.

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        Last year this claim went around for the Loblaws No Name brand in Canada so I went shopping with my kitchen scale, preparing to be outraged. Everything was a solid 10% over the advertised weight.

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      That does not apply in today’s world where shrinkflation and consumer fraud run rampant.

      It us solely the company’s responsibility to ensure each package is labeled with the correct weight, not the consumer to tolerate excuses like “measuing errors” whether they’re valid or not. Companies have too much power to just not know or be able to accurately weigh or label their product, ergo if there’s a problem, they chose to have it in there. And if you dispute that, I will simply block you and move on.

      Stop defending evil corporations. Stop doing this.

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        All that speech does not change that the weighing scales he is using is cheap af and thus the measuring error is high enough. Even if the guys at the company had the best measuring system in the world without error and they packed 410g of pasta, the guy measuring at home with that scale would probably mesure a vaule not equal to the nominal one.

        Maybe the scales have measuring errors because they defend evil corporations. “Please scales stop defending evil corporations!!”. Dude i hate scales they are so much pro system…

        Srry your comment was too funny for me.

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          All that speech doesn’t change the fact that your standards don’t matter, ours do, and if our scales don’t match what that package says, you have to put more product in to make it do so or you are defrauding us. Period.

          Now come back when you’re ready to meet our standards.

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            your standards don’t matter, ours do, and if our scales don’t match what that package says, you have to put more product in to make it do so or you are defrauding us. Period.

            I’m not sure if I’m missing a joke here, but are you asking for some alternative-metrology here?!

            Weight is a well-defined standard, and a properly calibrated scale > your kitchen scale.

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              Yeah this guy is pure comedy at this point tbh. Are you of the “our standards” team or “their standards” team (very evil, probably eat childs too)

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            You aren’t shit. They scales do meet standards that are tested periodically to ensure they aren’t false advertising. Do you really think these corporations don’t have audits?

            Calm down, touch grass, try to get in touch with reality and stay off the tankie portions of the internet that feed these delusions.

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            You sound like an angry oldman not wanting to accept reality.

            So you want companies to put excess product because you don’t know how to measure correctly (or don’t have good equipment). Well ask them. For the price of 410g, too? No? And maybe a paycheck supplement too.

            I want a lot of things too.

            The point is that it isn’t false advertising if you don’t know how to measure well. Is not a standar or whatever you think it is. It’s reality.

            Outside the kindergarten where everything seems so simple and easy to understand. In real life you don’t have ideal things. You don’t have an ideal measuring place.

            Sources of error when measuring:

            • The material cut tolerance.
            • Your house not being perfectly smooth leveled.
            • (for electronic scales) RF noise.
            • (for electronic scales) Tolerance on electronic components.
            • The scale subjection points not perfectly pressed.
            • (for electronic scales) discretization error.
            • Components degradation.
            • Humidity.
            • Gas denisty near the scale.
            • Gravity fluctuations in the region of measurement.
            • Surface of the sample not resting completly in the scale plate. Etc.

            And you are ranting about evil and “our” standards or whatever for a 2% error in the measurement? I would expect a 5% error given all that. That scale must be an exceptional good one.

            It’s not standards it’s reality. Why do you think measuring labs are so expensive? Evil companies?

            Try measuring your height more than once and see if results change. Hey if they change, you work for the evil companies, and you probably live in our “standards zone”.

            Our/Yours standards was pure comedy. It’s getting better and better.

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        It us solely the company’s responsibility to ensure each package is labeled with the correct weight, not the consumer to tolerate excuses like “measuing errors” whether they’re valid or not

        The measuring error is on OP’s end, not the manufacturer.