the left is literally about creating a stateless society. The term ‘left-wing’ comes from the French Revolution in which members of parliament who were against restoring the monarchy sat on the left side.
maybe have a look into left politics and theory before establishing that an entire philosophical set of ideas is ‘authoritarian’.
i would love to know the sources of media you choose to consume, i would also love to know who you think ‘represents’ the left.
even those who i think represent the left would be considered ‘not left enough’ or some other bullshit considering its an inherently, extremely disparate grouping of thousands of ideologies.
Almost the entirety of Lemmy is left leaning, even more so than reddit was. So unless you’re over in specifically ML communities you’re generally interacting with non-authoritarian leftists.
We’ve even got multiple entire instances with a strong non-auth leaning. (db0, vtc, etc)
I think perhaps you’re reading too much into what others say. There are a lot of exaggerated views all over the internet, and that means here as well. And although I’d like to believe most of us here do our best to speak in good faith, I’m sure that’s not always true.
And yet, I’m also sure that there are some people here who do genuinely believe that Westerners can’t be leftists, but I think those views are clouded by the history of Western hegemony and imperialism, and ultimately don’t stand up to scrutiny. I think it’s our responsibility to, maybe not be accepting of such views, but at least to be understanding of them with intent to put them behind us.
I’m against authoritarianism so… if lefties are authoritarians I’m not left.
the left is literally about creating a stateless society. The term ‘left-wing’ comes from the French Revolution in which members of parliament who were against restoring the monarchy sat on the left side.
maybe have a look into left politics and theory before establishing that an entire philosophical set of ideas is ‘authoritarian’.
Not when the left wing is only represented by authoritarians.
i would love to know the sources of media you choose to consume, i would also love to know who you think ‘represents’ the left.
even those who i think represent the left would be considered ‘not left enough’ or some other bullshit considering its an inherently, extremely disparate grouping of thousands of ideologies.
I consume this platform’s media and the tankies are a poison to the left
Tankies are not leftist. Neither are libs. Both are basically fash.
Liberals are for globalisation. Tankies are for China’s firewall and surveillance.
Social democrats are for low inequality
That’s orthogonal to left / right.
Not if lefty communities are only represented by the authoritarian wing.
Almost the entirety of Lemmy is left leaning, even more so than reddit was. So unless you’re over in specifically ML communities you’re generally interacting with non-authoritarian leftists.
We’ve even got multiple entire instances with a strong non-auth leaning. (db0, vtc, etc)
I think you mean, “liberals”.
I’m sorry, I’m not sure I follow…
I don’t pass the lefty purity test because I participate in American democracy. That means I can only be liberal and never a leftist.
If you want to increase your leftist purity, then stop supporting a genocidal empire. It’s not that complicated.
I think perhaps you’re reading too much into what others say. There are a lot of exaggerated views all over the internet, and that means here as well. And although I’d like to believe most of us here do our best to speak in good faith, I’m sure that’s not always true.
And yet, I’m also sure that there are some people here who do genuinely believe that Westerners can’t be leftists, but I think those views are clouded by the history of Western hegemony and imperialism, and ultimately don’t stand up to scrutiny. I think it’s our responsibility to, maybe not be accepting of such views, but at least to be understanding of them with intent to put them behind us.
I understand but when I call them out for being the thing they claim to detest they double down which only serves to prove my point.
Good faith. Good faith requires reflection. If you can’t scrutinize your own behavior you can’t act in good faith.
Tankies/redfash are not lefties. Neither are libs.