• Sybil@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Same for voting 3rd party, it just ensures you get the candidate you want the least.

    this claim is obviously false, since I have provided proof against it. if you want to weaken the claim, moving the goalposts, that’s fine, but don’t break a sweat.

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      Not sure if you’re just being intentionally thick or a troll.

      Youre explaining yourself that despite you voting against him, Biden won, and you didn’t want Trump and the person you voted for didn’t win. So your actions gave you the least chance of having a candidate you were aligned with.

      If anything, you are giving proof that it’s a dumb thing to do. But that would be anecdotal evidence, and there’s no need for that.

      If you manually run the results and the effects of 3rd parties, it’s pretty clear that it makes no sense in First Past the Post.

      It’s a thing known as The spoiler effect, or vote splitting and has always been a documented thing that dumb people don’t understand. Who do you think funds these 3rd parties in the first place…

      Youre being played.

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        10 months ago

        if i’m just too thick to understand, a big big dummy, then you better make sure the vote isn’t split: vote with me.

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          I’ll vote 3rd party when they legally and statistically have as much chance to win as the others, which doesn’t work in First Past The Post.

          First they need to change the voting system, then it will be advantageous for me to vote for someone else. Until then my vote is too important to throw away

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                  What else is it about then? Trump will enable more genocides not less. Not getting your hands dirty seems to be the motivation I’ve seen among people who espouse this view point.

                  But you will get you’re hands dirty if you don’t vote in the election where fascists are trying to overthrow our democracy.

        • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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          My brother in Christ, as far as number of voters are considered, your vote is causing the split. You’re in a minority which is enabling GOP by taking away votes from DNC.

          Idiot.

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        So your actions gave you the least chance of having a candidate you were aligned with.

        i was aligned with the candidate for whom i voted, and i was not aligned with the candidates i voted against.

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          10 months ago

          In 2016, everyone who voted 3rd party got Trump, the candidate they wanted the least.

          In 2020, everyone who voted 3rd party was either going to get Biden, (the candidate they are moderately aligned with), or Trump, the candidate they were least aligned with.

          In both cases, people who voted 3rd party made their chances worse. If you want more parties, the laws needs to change first, or else you’re just wasting your vote and giving it to conservatives, who benefit from your 3rd party vote the most. You may not like it, but you are playing for Conservatives in the political game, and that goes for people who don’t vote too.