President Biden was repeatedly interrupted by protesters who railed against the war between Hamas and Israel during an abortion rights rally in Manassas, Virginia, on Tuesday.
While your snarky comment is technically right, you seem to be intentionally ignoring this person’s actual point.
Sure, they’ll still genocide without the US’ help. But that doesn’t mean we should continue helping them?
Besides, having a country that tends to ally with Israel stop providing them weapons might actually make them consider their actions more. Doubtful, but still infinitely more useful than continuing to give aid.
Sure, they’ll still genocide without the US’ help. But that doesn’t mean we should continue helping them? [sic]
Where did I say we should? I agree that we should stop providing them weapons.
But to pretend that the US (and by extension, Joe Biden) is somehow a cause of the continuation of the war is to knowingly inflate the US’s role and engage in a fallacy of understated evidence. Netanyahu is fighting a holy war, and he’ll sacrifice as many children and zealots upon that altar to maintain his grip on power.
That’s the point. People need to stop talking and acting like it’s Joe Biden’s fault or that he has some intrinsic power to stop it, because that’s factually incorrect.
You asked what it would accomplish if the US stops giving Israel money (which I read as aid in general)
The accomplishment would that the US would no longer be giving money and weapons to a country committing genocide. I did not say that this would stop the genocide, I realize that Biden has no intrinsic ability to stop it. But we can absolutely blame him for contributing still. It is absolutely Biden’s fault that he is using his 60 days discretion for funding military action before the senate weighs in, and it isn’t some logical fallacy to say that we should not be doing that.
Also, Biden could actually start guiding US diplomats to pressure Israel more by not vetoing UN resolutions that would aid Palestine/attempt to curb Israel’s genocidal action.
Just like with any other issue, multiple layers of effort can help reduce said issue. Masks, airflow, testing, and vaccines don’t stop COVID, but they do a pretty good job at reducing risk and illness. Although the US cannot unilaterally stop Israel from bombing the hell out of innocents, the US can certainly do a few things to make it clear that they should stop.
Are you aware they can and do make their own weapons, and even sell some to the US? I ask, because based on your single sentence, it seems you like you aren’t.
What do you suppose this would accomplish?
Can’t very well bomb anyone without bombs
Do you suppose they will have no bombs if the US stops giving them money?
While your snarky comment is technically right, you seem to be intentionally ignoring this person’s actual point.
Sure, they’ll still genocide without the US’ help. But that doesn’t mean we should continue helping them?
Besides, having a country that tends to ally with Israel stop providing them weapons might actually make them consider their actions more. Doubtful, but still infinitely more useful than continuing to give aid.
Where did I say we should? I agree that we should stop providing them weapons.
But to pretend that the US (and by extension, Joe Biden) is somehow a cause of the continuation of the war is to knowingly inflate the US’s role and engage in a fallacy of understated evidence. Netanyahu is fighting a holy war, and he’ll sacrifice as many children and zealots upon that altar to maintain his grip on power.
That’s the point. People need to stop talking and acting like it’s Joe Biden’s fault or that he has some intrinsic power to stop it, because that’s factually incorrect.
You asked what it would accomplish if the US stops giving Israel money (which I read as aid in general)
The accomplishment would that the US would no longer be giving money and weapons to a country committing genocide. I did not say that this would stop the genocide, I realize that Biden has no intrinsic ability to stop it. But we can absolutely blame him for contributing still. It is absolutely Biden’s fault that he is using his 60 days discretion for funding military action before the senate weighs in, and it isn’t some logical fallacy to say that we should not be doing that.
Also, Biden could actually start guiding US diplomats to pressure Israel more by not vetoing UN resolutions that would aid Palestine/attempt to curb Israel’s genocidal action.
Just like with any other issue, multiple layers of effort can help reduce said issue. Masks, airflow, testing, and vaccines don’t stop COVID, but they do a pretty good job at reducing risk and illness. Although the US cannot unilaterally stop Israel from bombing the hell out of innocents, the US can certainly do a few things to make it clear that they should stop.
If the US stops supplying them weapons they wouldnt have any to use.
Are you aware they can and do make their own weapons, and even sell some to the US? I ask, because based on your single sentence, it seems you like you aren’t.