I like the concept of tab groups but i don’t think that they’re for me. If i could pin certain sites into the groups however, that would be a game changer.
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Thankfully, the useful changes trickle downstream to Waterfox, LibreWolf, Floorp, etc.
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Except right now you lose all of your open tabs if you close the browser with the “X” on pc or if you shut the computer down.
To make it save your open tabs right now, you have to click the … and then select “exit”.
Can’t you restore them with Ctrl + shift + T or maybe Ctrl + shift + N ?
When I click history in the menu after reopening firefox, I have an option to restore previous session.
I’ve clicked history to get some pages back, but haven’t noticed a restore previous session option. Great if it’s there, but still a large bug that’s been present for quite a while.
I think that’s an issue with your install, when I shut down my computer or press the x it restores tabs fine next time I open it.
If it’s with the install, it’s from a bad/corrupted update. FF has been on there for ages. Are you on windows 10? I’ve seen it’s a known issue because it’s findable if you Google it. Be a strange bit of a corrupt install, being that it’s the only issue and that it works as expected if you select “exit” instead of hitting the “X”. Regardless, if you’re also on 64bit win10 system and it works normally for you, I’ll do a clean install.
Yes this is also on a 64 bit windows 10 install, so in theory yours should be functioning the same. Good luck getting that sorted as if you are like me and frequently use the same tabs that does sound like a pain
Do you have “open previous windows and tabs” ticked in settings? I’m also on 64bit win10 without the issue you describe.
AI garbage seemingly pays the bills…
Seems like it creates bills, but also has enough hype behind it to generate investment/donation interest.
At least the AI runs locally, as opposed to sending everything to someone else’s computer for processing. Local translation in Firefox actually works quite well.
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Tab groups are built for open tabs, bookmarks are built for revisiting things. Their use cases are quite different in my opinion.
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just moving them to a dedicated window.
That’s the key, it’s like having a separate window, but without the separate window.
At work I’ll open anywhere between 40 and 100 tabs at a time, but I want to keep them near my existing tabs and not in another window. I have an extension that opens them all in a new tab group. I typically work from the left edge of the group and close out of tabs as I get through them. I can still hop between my non grouped and grouped tabs without having to change windows. And if I want to pause it for a bit then I “minimize” the group like a window.
Why do you have to “get through them” in a specific order, though?
Because I have bees in my head that tell me to get through them in order
Here’s a use case: I often have to open up a bunch of instances of the same website (an internal version of a customer-facing page). They all have the same URL, but because they’re single-page apps, they all have massively different functions. For a few hours, I’ll need to flip back and forth between a few of them at a time, as well as some other websites on different pages, as well as an external program that I’m referencing or modifying. Then I don’t have to do that again for a week or two. So I use a tab group to put all of them in, and then once they’re done, I save and close the tab group to reopen next time.
Here’s another use case: I can use a single tab inside a “tab group” but use the tab group label to “name” the tab. That way, even though I have a dozen tabs open with the project name I work on at the beginning of the title, I can look at the label and know which one is the Jira ticket for the devops task I’m working on, which one is the Jira ticket for the new feature I’m waiting for QA signoff on, which one is the Jira ticket for the dependency update I need to do, etc. I also use this functionality when I have a bunch of stuff processing and I need to remember which one is on which step; do I need to do step 3 on this one or step 4? The tab group label knows.
Or here’s another one: I’m currently in the middle of a big accessibility push for our product’s front-end. I have all of the various tabs and resources and Jira tickets and specs open in a tab group, and I can flip between all of them. I open them all every time because it’s rare that I only want one of them (though, if I do, it’s nice that Firefox automatically sleeps all but the active one when I reopen the group). When I’m working on the project, I open that tab group. When I’m done, I save and close it.
Tab groups were literally the only thing I missed from Chrome when I migrated. I’m so glad to have them back, even though it did take
sevenfive long years. Since it was available as a feature flag, I’ve used it so much.This question is a highly personal one from my perspective. I haven’t used the groups yet but I often toggle between six or seven contexts throughout the day and I’ll give them a shot for that.
Profiles toggling just didn’t work for me as it was too … Slow for me as in I have to reorientate myself whenever I switched profiles.
I don’t know about groups specifically, but keeping a tab open retains its history, so you can go back (and forward) later.
Yes, tab groups maintain history, even across save & reopen operations.
Oops, I wasn’t clear… I meant I don’t know what the use-case is for tab groups, but keeping tabs open in any form should save history. (Thank you for letting me know, though!)
I gave a few of my personal use cases above, but in short: when I need to reference or act on multiple things on different sites at short notice, and will probably need to again later; to label tabs; and when I need multiple tabs of the same website, but because the URL doesn’t update a bookmark is insufficient.
Edit: You’re welcome!
instead of having 12984 tabs open, you can have 345 groups with only a few dozen tabs in each one.
Most of what web browsers do is the same feature multiple times just presented differently
Multitasking, preparing for meetings/workshops, not having to make bookmarks that are only relevant for the duration of a project/task.
There are many valid uses of tab groups that need to be kept open for quick accessibility without waiting for pages to load or finding specific groups of links that will not be relevant in a week
For me, open tabs and bookmarks are different levels of the same thing. I’ll open a bunch of tabs researching some take I want to do, and leave them open because I want to come back to that. Bookmarks do the same thing, but with lower visibility and higher permanence.
Tab groups let me group a handful of things to reduce the clutter. Similar to the way that folders are useful within the bookmarks manager.
To use them, just drag one tab on top of another, it’ll make a new group. Give it a name, and you can now expand/collapse. So 10 tabs all related to one tasks can stay in-sight to remind you, but only take up 1 tab’s worth of space in the bar.
*here again. Let’s see how long it takes them this time to remove it again.
Desktop only? Sigh…
The folks over on IOS are waiting very patiently for extension support. Firefox folks taking their time.
I’m sure it’s much more complicated on iOS considering they are forced to use Webkit instead of Gecko.
Apple won’t allow extensions for web browsers on their app store.
All browsers on iOS are Safari in disguise
Yeah pretty sad. It would be a much more useful feature for me on mobile.
On desktop, I usually just create a new window for different types of stuff.
No easy way to organize my infinite tabs on mobile (as far as im aware).
Chromium browsers on mobile do this, but it’s also a bit weirdly complicated/frustrating to work with at times, I hope of Firefox get to it, they can make it super simple.
I feel like this feature is a good idea that has come too late for me. I already “group” stuff via windows. That’ll be a hard habit to break.
I miss Panorama so much!
Do you use an add-on to prevent that from wiping out all but one window’s worth of tabs when you close them? That’s what originally made me get a tab grouping addon, after losing a ton of tabs when I broke some out into their own window and then later closed the main tab window before the secondary one. Realized immediately what happened but it was already too late to save that entire generation of precious tabs. Who knows what articles I didn’t feel like reading at the time but was totally going to read later I lost forever.
Ctrl+Q terminates the whole program at once and you don’t lose any windows.
Oh btw, just like Ctrl+shift+t reopens closed tabs, so Ctrl+shift+n reopens whole windows, with all tabs.
Interesting, though you can also just keep pressing Ctrl+Shift+T and it’ll eventually restore entire windows in the reverse order of closure, whether tab or window.
I close all windows at once via the Quit feature, then it re-opens all of them. You can trigger that from the menubar (press Alt to unhide it) in the “File” menu at the bottom.
You can also re-open a closed window from the “History” menu in that menubar.These might also be available in the hamburger menu. I’ve got that hidden, so can’t check easily…
I either let the OS close firefox and then it opens all windows when I next start firefox. Or I use ctrl+shift+n to reopen the last closed window
I would much rather see Tree Style Tab be integrated.
I use sidebery, I find it even better
Waterfox does this with an improved implementation of tree style tabs. Also zero Mozilla Corp telemetry, opt-in or otherwise.
Doesn’t seem to indicate whether groups will work with vertical tabs and unless that’s the case, I’m not switching from TST.
They do work in vertical tabs, but only one level. You can’t have nested tabs as far as I can tell.
I’ve been using tab groups with vertical tabs. No issues here. I’m on stable.
Vivaldi: laughing in 2019
You mean laughing in before COVID
Firefox laughing in 2004 with anything else…
I am on Vivaldi now but after manifest v3? I’m very happy to see tab
stackinggrouping come to Firefox based browsers as that’s definitely the escape plan, possibly very soon.Opera had it before they dropped presto back in like 2013.
To be fair, the current Vivaldi team consists of a lot of the ones that made Opera Presto.
Interesting… So Vivaldi is like Opera 2.0?
Shit, I remember seeing requests for tab groups for like 20 years under an assortment of names and descriptions. Neat to see. Useless for me, but neat to see.
This is a nice feature when you have a group of multiple sites you need quick access to on the regular. For me, I manage around 12 websites in three environments ; dev, test, and prod. Being able to group the websites by environment keeps things organized and somewhat readily available at two clicks (maybe three if you count collapsing a group before opening another group).
Next they’ll implement DownThemAll natively. Really putting their finger on the pulse of 2008.
OpenSUSE added parallel downloading to zypper a month ago, so anything is possible.
Now, the team is experimenting with smart tab groups, a new AI-powered feature that suggests names and groups based on the tabs you have open.
I bet you one cheap bottle of mineral water they’ll implement this like tomorrow
Great. Now do Guest mode. It’s a must-have for places like libraries and internet cafes - if Firefox equalled Chrome in this regard it’d easily gain a percent on the market share scale.
Is Guest mode different from Private Browsing?
In fact - no, it’s just a reskin of incognito to make it not feel like you’re not watching porn.
Which might make it feel like a non-issue and a useless thing to add, but flip that around - it’s a low-cost, potentially very high-reward improvement. It really should’ve been implemented ages ago.
The only things that need to be changed is the new tab page and the toolbar - both design “improvements”.
Sorry, I’m not totally following here.
What is Guest mode, exactly? Esp if not just a containerized session that clears all cookies, history, and personal data when closed.
It literally is just Incognito (Private browsing), a little reskinned. Pretty much a temporary container living as long as the Ghest window - just like Incognito.
Can’t wait for Ironfox to implement this.
is ironfox a better alternative to librewolf? i too moved offa FF when they changed tos
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Isn’t profile management introduced like right now in the same release?
Considering I’ve been screeching this to myself, I wonder how they heard.
Been using it for a couple of months now at work. It’s good.
I also appreciate how intuitively it works. I wasn’t aware of this feature when it first landed in developer edition, but after I accidentally created a group with drag and drop, the feature just clicked.
I had to enable them:
about:config->browser.tabs.groups.enabled->trueThank you for this. Now I know hire to turn them off.
But they’re off by default so I’m not sure what you’re talking about
Not on my browser they aren’t. They just started offering to make groups one day, and while I want to tear out someone’s tongue for it, it would require far too much effort, and might just be a bit of an overreaction.
