• Phegan@lemmy.world
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    I’ve been saying we need web 1.5. The web before 2.0, but with the tooling and technology we have created and learned to use since.

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      I mean, we could have a community for building a geocities-style network of dumb-sites and personal pages linked to other people’s pages or shared interest pages dedicated to non-chatgpt content. With its own death (autocorrect, wtf?) local search engine to bypass Google’s SEO (like a sub-internet). Make the web alive again. We have had some Lemmy posts about favourite websites that made me think of that.

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        I mean, we could have a community for building a geocities-style network of dumb-sites and personal pages linked to other people’s pages or shared interest pages dedicated to non-chatgpt content.

        There is Neocities, which seems like it could fulfill that pretty well.

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          Ok, I’d heard about it before, but I’ll try it out and see if it really is what it looks like. I can’t criticise it if I haven’t really tested it myself.

          Also: can neocities be shut down like geocities was?

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            Neocities hosts all the websites for free from donations, but if that ever wasn’t enough and they had to shut down, it would require that everyone on there migrate their website to a new host (or self-host).

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              Alright, Wikipedia model (but for web art and enthusiast communities). Looks good, let’s gooo :)

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        This sounds like it could be fediverse’d. A platform that uses activitypub but gives users more solid html/wysiwyg tools and a ‘fills the page’ UX for each ‘post’ which is basically just a website with a tiny frame that contains platform-centric tooling. And posts are intended to be long-lived/edited rather than a ton of back and forth.

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        FWIW this could be quite easily done with IPFS, everyone just runs the software and like that you can trivially seed and download websites that link to each other by hash instead of domain name.

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          Sounds good, I only need to run ipfs to host myself. Do you also need to run the software to see it on the clearnet? Probably there are gateways for this.

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            there are public gateways here and there, primarily just ipfs.org, though of course beware that they can totally just ignore what you wanted to view and instead send you malware.

            Easiest is to just download the ipfs desktop software, which iirc also works as a local gateway and since it’s a GUI makes everything as easy as possible to understand.

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      I shudder out just how poor performing the modern web is. I mean, there is a place for modern websites that use a lot of bandwidth, but it’s extremely silly how much of the web is just text that loads 10mb worth of bullshit.