Its a shame because they’re prominent voice on lemmy. Good on the admins for not tolerating this. I don’t understand the point of targeting a person you don’t like on the internet just because they said something that upset you and spamming their post with downvotes. If you don’t like someone block their ass and be done with it. I agree with the perspective that its harassment (and an incredibly petty ineffective form of it at that)
I’m not really seeing any receipts, so I’m going to have to go with “power tripping admins abusing power” on this one.
The person in question is extremely rude and toxic. I have reached out to the LW admins regarding that he seems unfit to be moderating a dozen medium to larger communities. Unfortunately i didnt get any reply.
He regularly insults people and argues in bad faith. About two weeks back he spread misinformation about the compensation of Holocaust victims and their descendents by Germany to justify Israelis stealing Palestinian land.
When i corrected him with sources he called me antisemitic and compared me with Elon Musk. Unfortunately mods chose not to act against him on a report of incivillity, which i can only explain for myself with him abusing his “power mod” position and people being intimidated by him.
Oh, he’s a goddamn zionist, too?
At no point during that discussion did the mod threaten anyone or abuse their power. They were having a heated discussion about a complex topic.
The fact that you disagree is entirely beside the point. This isn’t harassment in the slightest.
Insulting people is harassment.
Insulting people and spreading misinformation, but seemingly being above rules against either is and indication of power abuse from mu perspective.
Especially as he does it quite regularly.
I that case, insults were flinging wild. I guess everyone was harassing everyone in there.
And I note that basically nobody who was actually discussing things was banned, so how is that power abuse?
Your receipts are pretty weak.
Honestly, if you look at the receipts, it’s even worse. It’s a pattern of instance admins harassing this guy, banning him, and then accusing him of being abusive somehow to them (by, for example, using his downvote button) and also telling people he’s a piece of shit.
It’s a pattern of instance admins harassing this guy
Someone should really ask for receipts on this one.
Look below, we’re discussing it with links and examples. Maybe “harassing” is a stretch, but they’re definitely singling him out for insults, accusations, and moderator actions in a way that to me is wildly un-called for.
I think even you have pointed to it, but PJ is a prolific poster. If he’s having a bad moment (as everyone does on occasion), it’s not just a couple of comments, it’s hundreds.
When pugjesus gets into it with someone or about something, it’s a bonafide flood of activity. If it were any other user I might even agree with you that it’s unfair, but pugjesus is not ‘any other user’. Having been on the receiving end of his ire before, I really have to say that it’s appropriate to hand out a temp ban.
Everyone needs time to touch grass sometimes -not more than when you’re days-deep into a posting bender.
People are allowed to argue on the internet, no?
We seem to have moved the goalsposts from “he’s abusive” to “he was banned from blahaj which as everyone knows means he definitely actually did something” to “he argues about politics how dare.”
170+ comments in a day is not simply ‘arguing about politics’. Even then, though, not every community or instance allows just any kind of arguing, and not every mod will tolerate a flood of reports about a single user arguing just a bit too aggressively. Especially when the specifics of the argument are borderline rulebreaking by themselves.
We seem to have moved the goalsposts from “he’s abusive” to “he was banned from blahaj which as everyone knows means he definitely actually did something” to “he argues about politics how dare.”
Sorry, who’s moving the goalposts? You accused the admins of ‘harassing’ him, then backed down to ‘unfairly singling him out’. It would be impossible to ‘single him out’ any more than he has already distinguished himself by the shear volume of his activity. A one-off heated comment is very different than dozens and dozens.
I am aware of your personal political alignment with PJ, so I understand you may identify with the content of his commenting - but the shear volume of it is enough on its own to warrant intervention.
It’s only a temp ban, anyway - a glorified time-out. I’m fine with leaving it as a disagreement.
170+ comments in a day is not simply ‘arguing about politics’.
Oh, so I was banned for commenting now? I didn’t realize my ban was changed - nor that commenting too often was against the dbzer0 rules.
You’re welcome to your opinion.
This the same guy that calls POC perspective of colonisation “melodramatic”.
I would love to read that context if you have it somewhere.
Based on the conversations I’ve had with him, it’s gotta be gold.
It was in response to me linking readsettlers.org it was on my lemm.ee account
Bummer. Will have to go read the links
Its somewhere in that accounts modlogs
I’ll never understand people who argue and fight beyond the initial disagreement. I mean, even that should be civil (though I’m often not when I feel attacked by someone misrepresenting my point). I’ve got way too little free time to try to chase someone around the internet.
Happy to be on Lemmy, though, where my interactions have been mostly positive. Sometimes it’s good to know when to sign off and take a break. Think I’ll get back to the show I was streaming.
I’ll never understand those that hate toxcisity to this degree
Unsurprising, that user is a power-poster and power-mod that constantly tries to shit-stir. Figured it was only a matter of time before something like this happened.
Bruh… cowbee talking about shit stirring… i only know we’re in a glass house cause you started throwing stones.
I pretty plainly admit to focusing on correcting misinterpretations of Marxism and Marxism-Leninism, I spend very little time power posting, and I don’t own and moderate drama communities. I also don’t downvote troll people, or stalk them and post about them on drama comms.
I’m certainly opinionated, and have my own political views I don’t shy away from, but I think it’s pretty clear that this is a fundamentally different situation.
Meh, like I guess, but honestly when someone lifts you out of the bucket of shit you’re stirring, the shape of you is obscured by the fact you are also covered in the shit you stirred along with this loser.
Don’t really follow, are you just saying that because I’m opinionated and like to talk about Marxism, I’m the same kind of shit-stirrer that constantly posts memes trying to provoke a response, and mods a bunch of drama communities specifically about snooping on people for screengrabs? I can’t say I agree.
Of course you don’t agree, your head is buried in shit.
Okay? Strange behavior on your part, you might want to look into a mirror.
I’m in the glass house with you.
“Shit birds, randy, a wh- whole flock of em, all washing themselves with shit water in shit buckets in their houses of glass smeared in shit, randal.”
"what kind of shit birds are we talking about here mister AWistfulNihilist? The shit hawks are back again brought in by the winds of shit?
“Even worse, boy…”
“Shit Ostriches, Randy. We gotta call in the heavies on this one.”
this JOKER made a community to WHINE about their Ls
edit because i forgot to post the LINK!
And it got banned by the admin so he made a new one on lemmy.world! Holy shit he’s just refusing to consider he’s being weird.
Lmao I thought you were joking for a second
Shout out to PJ who embodies the “fuck you, I will NEVER stop posting” mentality
Doesn’t dbzer0 literally have a ‘disengage’ rule because the default experience there is "“fuck you, I will NEVER stop posting”?
That is the experience on most of the instances
Holy shit this is hilarious, my God. Terminally online behaviour.
“nEoLiBeRaLiSm WoN”
Hey yacht boy, what are you doing hanging out with us tankies?
“nEoLiBeRaLiSm WoN”
Hey yacht boy, what are you doing hanging out with us tankies?
… what.
Deeply unserious behavior.
It’s a rite of passage these days. Blahaj and DB0 are full of couch revolutionaries throwing bans like molotovs.
“I defeated the patriarchy today!”
obama_medal.jpg
What does this even mean? Should we not ban people who are disturbing and rude?
They get a chance to be? 196 banned me from their Matrix channel just for being a straight person. I didn’t even have a discussion with them. It was “oh, you’re not trans? Bye!”, instantly.
admin clicks on my account
“Oh, we already banned him… huh… fuck, is he right?!”
I was banned from their lemmy instance for criticizing blahaj about a month ago, I never even had a back and forth with a user on their instance. Some admin said “seeya never, then!” and banned me indirectly from a comment on another instance.
I’m on the 196 matrix and straight, never had any issue
Why would someone banned for transphobia lie about queer people hating him? Curious.
Congratulations
Gonna need a big [citation needed] on that one.
Especially the single db0 user who downvoted your comment. Every single valid critique of the instance, there they are.
Clearly this a valid argument and critique and not at all intentionally made abtract for humor, you’re right.
Dbzer0 mods temp banned me for trolling recently. I was actually taken aback because on Reddit my sarcasm would be pretty mild. Can’t argue with the premise, glad our mods are trying to make Lemmy less toxic and I learned a valuable lesson actually. Just disengage and move on.
I wasn’t banned for any comments, though. I was banned because, apparently, it’s unlawful to downvote comments you disagree with if it’s a commenter the dbzer0 admins like.
Yes, mass downvoting things for no reason is different from downvoting things you disagree with. If you go down a page and downvote every artifact there, and then illustrations, and then ruins, at some point it becomes apparent that it’s not because of a very eclectic and specific aesthetic preference. I’m sorry if that’s too complex for you to understand.
I mean, if you’re downvoting everybody’s page, and claiming that you just disagree with everything they post, then yeah, I can see why they would ban you.
Unfortunately for you, you’re not exactlu sunshine and rainbows, so I can imagine people aren’t exactly willing to just take you at your word.
I don’t care, I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the situation.
I mean, if you’re downvoting everybody’s page, and claiming that you just disagree with everything they post, then yeah, I can see why they would ban you.
Except it wasn’t everything they posted, even by their own admission, in this very comment thread, no less:
His account of my behavior is not correct, nor are his bizarre claims of what I said, but he admits that I didn’t just blanket downvote.
Unfortunately for you, you’re not exactlu sunshine and rainbows, so I can imagine people aren’t exactly willing to just take you at your word.
That’s legitimate.
I don’t care, I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the situation.
But as pointed out, the two situations are different - including by the account of the ‘harassed’ user I’m being accused of victimizing.
I kinda think you made your own bed.
I kinda think you made your own bed.
I apologize for the crime of downvoting comments that I disagree with. I’m sure this is from a place of utter detachment, ‘just pointing out the hypocrisy’ of something you can no longer claim to be hypocrisy. Now it’s just a generic “You deserved it”, lmao.
I blocked this dude so long ago, but I’m glad to see he’s finally getting his comeuppance.
I blocked this dude so long ago, but I’m glad to see he’s finally getting his comeuppance.
I’ve been removed from the only comm on dbzer0 that I used.
Wow. Much comeuppance.
Utterly bizarre.
Nah he’s just making alts now to get around people’s blocks and bans from instances who banned him for being a weirdo.
Nah he’s just making alts now to get around people’s blocks and bans from instances who banned him for being a weirdo.
What an utterly bizarre claim. Do you have any proof of this?
Db0 lol clowns. I made a comment once, got threatened, laughed at said threat, then got banned from libjerk. Some users there are as bad as the tankie trifecta
Oh, yeah I think I argued with that guy when I was drunk once. Coolio
So many people are thin skinned and have nothing better to do than to spend their OWN FREE TIME making other people less happy. Imagine instead of having fun or relaxing or playing a game or going outside or hanging with friends … you stomp on other people because they have a differing opinion or said something you didn’t like. This person should not be a mod. This person has a miserable life.
As I pointed out, the claims of harassment are untrue (unless downvoting comments one genuinely disagrees with is harassment), and the commenter in question has a long history of obsessing about me, in a negative way.
Seven months of obsessing about me, and that was just gleaned from a quick search of my name from their account.
I stated a fact. I don’t get into the drama and I don’t care about the details . There is way too much drama dragging us down from being supportive human beings and that shouldnt be happening. I’m not even looking at your images - just saying more or less we should get over it and agree to disagree. You may be right … .you may be crazy, I have no beef with anyone. Take a step back … maybe reach out and apologize and understand your adversary and see what happens. I too have been affected by making a comment on reddit and having someone downvote my every past comment. This behavior is bad though. I ( until I quit reddit ) used to help in a lot of the electrical and tech subs and there’s no reason to downvote something I said to help a guy fixing his washing machine 5 months ago that deserves a downvote because you don’t like my recent opinion on something unrelated. Lets all be adults and cool to our fellow humans.
just saying more or less we should get over it and agree to disagree.
I’m being accused of being a harasser, a transphobe, and a genocide supporter, and your response is that I should just… sit down, shut up, and agree to disagree?
Beg your fucking pardon?
this is the internet - it’s a social media site… I’m sorry it’s that serious for you but I’d say “fuck you mate and I disagree” and move on. Your real life is not being affected.
So many people are thin skinned and have nothing better to do than to spend their OWN FREE TIME making other people less happy. Imagine instead of having fun or relaxing or playing a game or going outside or hanging with friends … you stomp on other people because they have a differing opinion or said something you didn’t like.
Thank you! Yeah, I 100% agree with all of this.
This person should not be a mod. This person has a miserable life.
Wait… do you mean PugJesus, or the person that banned him? I was 100% on board when I interpreted it as “the person that banned him,” yes.
This thread seems 100% full of people steaming up fake drama as enthusiastically as they possibly can, while also, accusing PJ of stirring up drama and apparently saying he should be banned for it.
This thread seems 100% full of people steaming up fake drama as enthusiastically as they possibly can, while also, accusing PJ of stirring up drama and apparently saying he should be banned for it.
You mean his documented actions and the consequences for his actions?
Pig is currently on a week long temper tantrum. He’s currently being a massive asshole to people. Ask me how I know.
Also weird how you’re not responding to the people who’ve proven you wrong here.
I saw that comment of yours about me not replying before, I just stopped caring before I was able to track it down since Piefed doesn’t have very good thread-navigation ability in big threads yet.
I was wrong about PugJesus being drama-free. It seems like some aggressively wrong people have baited him into extensive slap-fights about politics, and he may even have moderated some people from time to time about it. I said as much, the instant someone pointed it out to me, and then I moved on.
I don’t think him caring about politics is a sin, whichever side he’s on.
Was there anything else I was proven wrong about? If you want to bring it up, I’d be happy to address it.
Clearly you have no problem replying to other people, so it’s just odd you didn’t reply to others.
And no, pug just does that. Unless you’re just blind to his comments. Like how you said you’re unaware of him modding any communities while you’re active in the ones he moderates.
I don’t think him caring about politics is a sin, whichever side he’s on.
It’s not, it’s how he does it. You can adovate for good things but do it in such a way that no one wants to fight by your side.
Was there anything else I was proven wrong about? If you want to bring it up, I’d be happy to address it.
Oh just the admins who have replied and not gotta anything back.
It’s not, it’s how he does it. You can adovate for good things but do it in such a way that no one wants to fight by your side.
Like by spending 7 months falsely calling someone else a transphobe and Zionist? Or maybe, like some of your comrades here, one of your admins included, denying sexual assault verified by the UN?
Oh, but I’m the REAL villain here for downvoting you. That’s the real crime.
My guy lol
If you want me to answer something you think I skipped over answering, ask it. If you’re just here to reiterate your perception of reality to me, I think I’ve had my fill of the duck season / rabbit season game for today.
How is it shouty? No caps just a rebuttal to your claims.
But hey, just keep digging your grave. You seem so cool and rational, siding with the abusers and not the abused.
It’s just a wild coincidence that you don’t respond to those who prove your wrong.
If you want me to answer something you think I skipped over answering, ask it. If you’re just here to reiterate your perception of reality to me, I think I’ve had my fill of the duck season / rabbit season game for today.
I didn’t “spam their post with downvotes”, but the dbzer0 admins love to asspat the commenter in question who is utterly obsessed with me, and especially with lying about me
That’s not even including removed comments mentioning me or the times I’ve been referred to without using ‘Pug’.
I’m banned from 11 communities on blahaj instance and 2 communities on feddit instance so I can’t comment or vote on stuff there but I also don’t see media posts made by users from those instances on other communities.
Reason for bans were vague, no particular comments or posts of mine was pointed out, and I’ve got no response when I asked for clarification.
Blahaj is probably blocked in your country, mine and another friend has the same issue. Feddit blocks large swathes of Asia and maybe some other parts of the world sadly, but the admin told me they’ll fix it… Soon.
That’s not it. The people who banned me are instance admins.
I meant the fact about media being broken, that would only happen if those instances are blocked/blocking you, banning cant do that at all. Otherwise I have no clue.
Bruh. The users are from feddit instance but the community they’re posting on is world instance.
And I can see the media when I open it in a browser without logging in.
Bruh. The users are from feddit instance but the community they’re posting on is world instance.
It doesn’t work like that, even if the post is on another instance the media itself is hosted on the users’ instance. For example if a feddit.org user posted to a dbzer0 community I wouldn’t be able to see it, since the image itself is hosted on feddit.org.
There’s a fix for this called image proxying, which a few instances like Lemmy.zip for example enable, but Lemmy.world doesn’t do this.
And I can see the media when I open it in a browser without logging in.
Then I have no idea what’s going on, sorry.
Damn this fediverse thing is complicated.
Then I have no idea what’s going on, sorry.
Yeah it’s thumbnail getting cached to world instance. Silly me.
And none of this matters yet because I’m still permanently banned from multiple communities without those mods telling me which comments or posts of mine are responsible for those bans. 🤷♂️
i avoud controversial communities mostly for that very reason, like on reddit you can get misconstrued response and then get banned, barring if you actually said something very offensive.
He tends to get into a fight every single time I see him post and somebody says something that’s even slightly controversial, which results in an easily hundred long comment thread.
He’s more than willing to follow you around from thread to thread to and from community to community If he sees something on your profile he doesn’t like or he disagrees with your political opinions.
If this is a Lemmy, anarchist instance, full of a bunch of super lefties, they’re not gonna appreciate a Radlib coming in trying to start shit up and downvoting a bunch of people. They’re probably just gonna block him like they have.
I think the recommendation here is if you’re gonna downvote people, you probably want to just stick to downvoting people directly in the thread you’re engaging with and not go in that person’s profile and downvote every single thing they’ve ever done. Or claim that every single thing they’ve ever done is something you disagree with.
Unfortunately, he’s a prolific proster, and some of his stuff is funny 🤷
He’s more than willing to follow you around from thread to thread to and from community to community If he sees something on your profile he doesn’t like or he disagrees with your political opinions.
And when you call him out on it, he’ll make a new community to shame you for not liking him.
It’s really funny that I called him out for it, he said he doesn’t do it, and then make a community that got banned that’s all about doing it.
I went and browsed that community and it’s just full of gold.
And he claims everyone else is weird about him when he is doing shit like this.
The first one was banned by the admin, so he made a new one on .world
Hahah pifed wants none of that smoke. Man that’s hilarious
He tends to get into a fight every single time I see him post and somebody says something that’s even slightly controversial, which results in an easily hundred long comment thread.
I dread to think of what you consider only ‘slightly controversial’.
He’s more than willing to follow you around from thread to thread to and from community to community If he sees something on your profile he doesn’t like or he disagrees with your political opinions.
lmao, what.
If this is a Lemmy, anarchist instance, full of a bunch of super lefties, they’re not gonna appreciate a Radlib coming in trying to start shit up and downvoting a bunch of people. They’re probably just gonna block him like they have.
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I’m literally a DemSoc, and I’m quite open about this. Sorry that I don’t fit your convenient stereotype for “Bad Poster”?
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They literally haven’t blocked me.
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If you count “disagreeing with someone without commenting” or, as accused elsewhere, “disagreeing with someone and commenting once when your name is mentioned” as “starting shit up”, I question what level of disagreement you think is appropriate.
I think the recommendation here is if you’re gonna downvote people, you probably want to just stick to downvoting people directly in the thread you’re engaging with and not go in that person’s profile and downvote every single thing they’ve ever done. Or claim that every single thing they’ve ever done is something you disagree with.
Again, as pointed out in our conversation, and, for that matter, by the admission of the person being discussed here as ‘harassed’, none of that is true.
But I guess backpedaling admission in order to peddle blatant falsehoods in a new comment chain is all you have at this point. You already backpedaled twice in that comment chain; gotta get a new thread out for exposure of repeating the same bullshit talking points, huh?
I don’t care, I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the situation.
You don’t care, of course.
SocDem is not a marxist or an anarchist.
Liberal does not count as a lefty. I’d much rather deal with anarchist comrades than liberal comrades.
Please keep posting that screenshot. If people actually read it, it does not say what you think it means.
No, I don’t care. I think you should go touch grass. I think this is fucking hilarious. I think you’re a whinger for having to go create your own community just to go whine about this.
Liberals can be lefties. They can’t be leftists.
PJ has claimed to be both an anarchist and a liberal when we were arguing, that’s why I blocked the guy, lying about his positions as a rhetorical tactic. Since I assume he’s the blocked guy swinging in the comments I also assume he’s now claiming to be a DemSoc, which is funny.
On the other hand, maybe he’s just figuring stuff out as he goes along like everyone else :)
He could be figuring stuff out but man they are abrasive.
He gonna grind through a ton of people before he figures anything out
SocDem is not a marxist or an anarchist.
DemSoc, genius. Holy fucking shit. Literally read theory.
Please keep posting that screenshot. If people actually read it, it does not say what you think it means.
I’m not sure if you’re being disingenuous or if your literacy is legitimately at that level.
DemSoc is not Marxist and hasn’t been since before the fall of the USSR.
No, it’s just clear your comprehension isn’t where it actually needs to be and you didn’t read that screenshot carefully enough to see what it actually says.
I bet the whole reason you don’t read Marxist theories is because you literally don’t understand what they’re saying.
DemSoc also just bugs me as a label, all socialism is democratic. What DemSocs should really label themselves is reformist socialists, but because they can’t help but attack Marxists, they stick to cold war slander against AES by pretending reformist socialism is the only democratic form of socialism.
DemSoc also just bugs me as a label, all socialism is democratic.
Oh, so the Soviet Union wasn’t socialist, you agree, then? And neither is the PRC?
Nah, the PRC is democratic, and so was the USSR. Both are examples of socialism in the real world. I really don’t know what you’re trying to do here, I think you need to step away from the keyboard for a bit because you seem to have been here for hours now.
This crashout is fucking legendary, I’m really enjoying the back and forth between you and the dude who talks exactly like you, bucket guy. I’m not saying your the same person or anything, it’s just amazing another one of you exists!
I mean, I was getting attacked by him earlier, but it seems that Philip isn’t quite the same as Pug. He’ll step back occasionally and try to reach out to your better side.
PJ is basically just an attack dog.
Was reading things a little too fast, my dyslexia was getting me.
I think I’ve done okay so far.
What.
Chicken butt.
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Using lemvotes, I’ve noticed a pattern of at least 3 users downvoting 90℅ of everything I post and I just want to say: If you don’t like me, block me. But I know at least one of those users is a drama creating bully with accounts on seemingly every single instance. Surprised they don’t use all their accounts to downvote. I guess then it would be too obvious. 🤷♂️
I think I will be blocking db0 after all.
I am not sure it is really an instance specific phenomena. I have two or three users who do the same to me. One of them appears to be a german user I have never interacted with on Lemmy in any capacity that I know of. It’s just internet things.
What are the accounts? You can bring it up our admins and they’ll take care of it.
