The Maxxpros, leopards, strykers, bradlys, and even the challengers failed. Now these tanks are supposed to be ukraine’s last hope?

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    Brazilian armed forces have Leopard 1s. It’s the love of our tank units.

    Yet, I recall when they compared to the Venezuelan T-72s, they have lower mobility, higher maintenance costs, smaller calibre guns, and a ridiculously short reach for a tank.

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        EE-T1 Osório would still be a decent tank nowadays, judging by the data. It feels like one of these T-64 and T-72 mixed with Western tanks (usually M60 and Leopard 2) derivates that Iran and China made in the 90s and 2000s

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            No wonder the gringos did all they could to sabotage Engesa. Nowadays, it’d likely work better - if they had a partnership with another bigger power like Pakistan or India did with China and Russia, respectively. Or a government that’s actually interested in self-preservation like the DPRK or Iran.

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              unless we had a socialist government, is very unlikely that brazil would sell top notch weaponry to drpk.

              overall i agree, brazil doing defense partnership with global south would be nice

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                I didn’t quite mean selling, but learning how to make what we need in-house without relying on others - something DPRK and Iran did. Iran specially has developed a tank named Zulfiqar that’s a lot like the EE-T1.

                But you’re right; we’d need a socialist government for any such events to develop. And for closer ties with the rest of the South.

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      Not like Brazil will need much more than Leo 1 for their neighbours.

      Venezuela? Naval+air war and maybe infantry warfare on the rainforest? Not tanks, that is for sure. Also, fighting for jungla.