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    i think it makes more sense to split it into thirds: for example in germany, for biological men, its 78 year, meaning you enter your middle ages at 26 years old and your old age at 52 years old. For biological women, its 83 years of life expectancy, meaning you enter your middle ages at 27.6 years old and your old age at 55.3 years old

    edit: didn’t mean to cause a gender debate, i dont think the statistic acounts for trans people, which i don’t agree with. i would be curious to see the life expectancy statistics of trans conpared to cis people. i would guess cis would have been a better way for me to say it because i would think official statistics would go with your “official” gender but idk

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        But isn’t their point that the life expectancy of “biological men” also apply to trans women, and vice verca? That wouldn’t be conveyed if they used the prefix cis.

        This would of course only be relevant if life expectancy is a purely biological phenomenon, which I am not so sure it is.

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          A fair bit of the difference in lifespan isn’t genetic, it’s social. Statistically, men and women don’t do the same jobs, and some of those are much more dangerous than others. Men are also more likely to get into accidents and violence, leading to younger deaths.

          None of that cares about your genetics and your reproductive organs and hormones are only peripherally involved in it.

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          A fair point I hadn’t considered, but in that case AFAB/AMAB is still better than “biological male/female”, since that’s not even something most people know (I don’t know my chromosomal, hormonal, or DNA structures, do you?).

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            AFAB/AMAB

            And what does that mean? Biological male/female seems pretty clear to me, whatever you’re born with between your legs indicates which of the 2 you are…

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              Well, if ACAB means All Cops Are Bad, then I’m guessing AFAB and AMAB must be All Females Are Bad and All Males Are Bad.

              …Or maybe ACAB is supposed to mean Assigned Cop At Birth?

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              Those mean Assigned Female/Male At Birth.

              And they exist because despite it being assigned that way at birth, gender or sex aren’t actually determined only by “what is between your legs”, nor are there just two binary options, since both gender and sex are a spectrum, not simply xx= vagina=female or xy=penis=male.

              Feel free to educate yourself

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                not really relevant though, xx being biologically male/xy being biologically female are uncommon enough

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                  And yet, they deserve to be included and considered. 🤯

                  (never mind that variation on the 3rd grade understanding of biology I described above are significantly more common than what I’m sure you’re willing to acknowledge. Sex and gender are spectrums, no matter how uncomfortable that might make you or how hard you try to deny it)

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                    you should stop getting annoyed at anyone that mentions a slight thing that might suggest that they’re homophobic. They’re probably not.

                    I don’t get uncomfortable over the idea of a spectrum, just annoyed when people waste time nitpicking over tiny things like this that aren’t part of the actual argument/idea being presented.

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                Yeah I suppose, but using random abbreviations everywhere does not make the point any clearer

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                  When the abbreviations are so commonly used that you can ask Google or Siri and get the right answer, then it’s fair to assume their meaning is clear to most people

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                  You not knowing a term doesn’t mean it isn’t useful or important or crystal clear, it just means you don’t know it.

                  So you could either educate yourself if you care, or don’t, but don’t try to frame the terms as the problem, or dismiss them (and by extension, the people who they apply to/benefit from their use) outright, that’s just a cop-out on your end.

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            Yeah, totally agree with that. But as a commenter above mentioned, the difference in lifespan is probably mostly social anyway, so the whole biology aspect isn’t really relevant.