• chetradley@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    46
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    11 months ago

    Hate to be that guy, but the icing on frosted Pop Tarts contains gelatin derived from bones, hooves, tendons, ligaments, etc., making it not vegetarian.

    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      11
      ·
      11 months ago

      That makes it not vegan but last time I checked, vegetarians only steer clear of meat, not all animal products. It’s like veganism, but less obsessive.

      • 🔪Criminal Unicorn🦄@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        15
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        11 months ago

        Animal carcasses are not vegetarian… Things like milk, eggs and honey (honey can be questionable) would be classed as vegetarian. Essentially anything that causes an animal to die to be consumed would not be vegetarian.

        • TWeaK@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          11 months ago

          There’s no real question with honey. Honey is vegetarian, but not vegan.

          Vegetarian = does not eat animals, vegan = does not eat animal products.

        • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          15
          ·
          11 months ago

          anything that causes an animal to die to be consumed would not be vegetarian.

          That would explicitly NOT include gelatin, which is made from the hooves and the like of animals already slaughtered for the parts people eat. Literally no one is slaughtering animals to make gelatin.

      • asteriskeverything@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        11 months ago

        It’s actually one of those things that varies for each person, how extreme they are with vegetarian. They might avoid anything that contains geletain including gummies or certain medications because it requires an animal byproduct to make.

        Eggs and dairy are not part of an animal carcass. You don’t have to kill an animal to enjoy it.

        Vegans believe using animals for any food (or maybe even product) is wrong so they avoid eggs, milk, dairy, etc. Or maybe it’s they are vegan in that they only eat eggs or whatever from their own free range chickens. Some vegans won’t get vaccines if they contain egg protein.

        Basically often both diets are often moral choices so there can be as much variety to how restrictive or serious it is just like any human will have variety in their morals details even if there is overlap on general idea (ffs just look at Christianity)

        And oh there are people who are vegetarian just because they don’t like the taste or texture of meat!

        Sorry for the ramble I found this really interesting when I became friends with people who have different diets. It’s interesting how much variety they can have.

        • Emerald@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          11
          ·
          edit-2
          11 months ago

          Some vegans won’t get vaccines if they contain egg protein.

          Vegan here, that seems a little extreme, and I haven’t heard of any vegan who does that. Also for many vaccines they make egg-free variants anyways. There are not really many good excuses to not get vaccinated if you ask me

      • Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        11 months ago

        last time I checked, bones, hooves, tendons, and ligaments, are meat, not just animal products, and most vegetarians would agree

        • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          11 months ago

          None of those things are meat, no. Meat = muscle tissue. Bones, hooves and connective tissue are not muscle tissue.

            • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              11 months ago

              It’s not a petty distinction, it’s an accurate and meaningful one: when I eat meat, an animal has been slaughtered for that purpose. When I eat or otherwise use gelatin, no animal has been slaughtered for that purpose as those parts are byproducts of animals already dead. Thus, no animal is killed for gelatine