BEIJING : This Dec. 21 story has been corrected to clarify that the ban was on the export of technology to make rare earth magnets and that the ban on technology to extract and separate critical materials was already in place, in paragraphs 1 and 6. It also removes context and the comment on rare earth processi
  • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    11 months ago

    Dutch didn’t, not alone, far from that.

    As opposed to the chinese, who are completely alone, all 1.whatever billion of them.

    which are[…]largely self-reliant in the matter

    You just fucking said it required cooperation you dumb cum juggler, now you’re saying they failed despite not cooperating?

    I didn’t write that they “wouldn’t be able to”

    I cannot sufficiently describe how much I hate your stupid reddit tier “um, akshumally I didn’t use those exact words therefore you’re completely misrepresenting what I said!” You won’t shut up about how hard and difficult and borderline impossible it is and you want me to believe you’re not trying to say they won’t be able to? You’re certainly not arguing that they will.

    if China wants to meet the ever growing domestic demand (either military or civil), China need fabs churning chips reliably.

    That’s not what commercially viable mean, buddy.

    • u_tamtam@programming.dev
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      11 months ago

      Dutch didn’t, not alone, far from that.

      As opposed to the chinese, who are completely alone, all 1.whatever billion of them.

      no need to speculate, China is not at the same level today (or we wouldn’t even be having this discussion in the first place), no matter how populous. Would it help catch-up? Probably! You are the one bringing this up, not me, so…

      You just fucking said it required cooperation you dumb cum juggler, now you’re saying they failed despite not cooperating?

      Was this a difficult sentence to read? Should I break it down for you? Those two things can be true at the same time (which is essentially what I wrote):

      Today’s China has neither.

      You won’t shut up about how hard and difficult and borderline impossible it is and you want me to believe you’re not trying to say they won’t be able to? You’re certainly not arguing that they will.

      Well, I’m sorry that a well-sourced post with actual engineering and historical facts, meant for the legitimately curious and interested people here makes you so angry. What can I say other than “you probably didn’t check-out the links and are arguing in bad faith/for the sake of it” and “you are letting your emotions blur your comprehension, i.e. putting words in my mouth”.

      That’s not what commercially viable mean, buddy.

      Commercial viability is the likelihood that a product or service will be successful in the marketplace.

      Unless the CCP starts distributing indigenous chips asking nothing in exchange, which I find unlikely to say the least, those will be traded (against hard money, work, resources, …) on some form of market. I’m not really into arguing about semantics, so you do you.